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Re: Expats returning to China

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AE86 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:42 pm
AndyKK wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 1:28 pm
Spigzy wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:01 pm Is this for Chinese expats here, or other nationalities trying to get into China? If the former, we need to find a fix ASAP.
I have been reading for a longtime that there are many Chinese people traveling from China via land borders of Vietnam and Cambodia with the final destination for work being Sihanoukville. :stir:
Vietnam has been damn near very impossible to get in, even for many Vietnamese. My ex's family (being Vietnamese) have not been back since 2019, and they used to travel almost every month, sometimes twice a month to visit family.

I personally have a hard time believing random Chinese are transiting through given how strict I've heard border controls and immigration is up in Hanoi.
Vietnam is easy, minus Covid testing and a 13 hour layover in Dubai, to get into now if you are a Vietnamese national. Took a friend to the consulate here in Houston a few weeks ago and she got a 5 year exempt. Took her to the airport on Wednesday, she sent me a text at 7:00 this morning letting me know that she got there ok.
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Re: Expats returning to China

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AE86 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:18 pm
nemo wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:57 pm
AE86 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:42 pm Vietnam has been damn near very impossible to get in, even for many Vietnamese. My ex's family (being Vietnamese) have not been back since 2019, and they used to travel almost every month, sometimes twice a month to visit family.

I personally have a hard time believing random Chinese are transiting through given how strict I've heard border controls and immigration is up in Hanoi.
Andy is referring to informal entries
I know.

Hanoi was on a fairly extreme lockdown, as was HCMC, and police were stopping people everywhere all the time in broad daylight and often times preventing people from leaving their houses or opening any kind of business in many districts (family members included). So given the severity of the police presence it would seem rather unattractive for those trying to bumble their way to SHV to do so through Vietnam as opposed somewhere like Laos in my view, given the relative lack of borders up north and much heavier Chinese presence there.

Just my view.
Plus, China is building a wall on the border with Vietnam and Myanmar: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/ ... r/13068344

I wonder if they're going to try to make Vietnam pay for it?!
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Re: Expats returning to China

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AE86 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:18 pm
nemo wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:57 pm
AE86 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:42 pm Vietnam has been damn near very impossible to get in, even for many Vietnamese. My ex's family (being Vietnamese) have not been back since 2019, and they used to travel almost every month, sometimes twice a month to visit family.

I personally have a hard time believing random Chinese are transiting through given how strict I've heard border controls and immigration is up in Hanoi.
Andy is referring to informal entries
I know.

Hanoi was on a fairly extreme lockdown, as was HCMC, and police were stopping people everywhere all the time in broad daylight and often times preventing people from leaving their houses or opening any kind of business in many districts (family members included). So given the severity of the police presence it would seem rather unattractive for those trying to bumble their way to SHV to do so through Vietnam as opposed somewhere like Laos in my view, given the relative lack of borders up north and much heavier Chinese presence there.

Just my view.
I live in the north of Vietnam, near the border, and it is an open secret that Chinese are crossing illegally every day. Dome do get caught but it is a difficult border to patrol and many get through.
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Re: Expats returning to China

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hanno wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:26 am
AE86 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:18 pm
nemo wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:57 pm
AE86 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:42 pm Vietnam has been damn near very impossible to get in, even for many Vietnamese. My ex's family (being Vietnamese) have not been back since 2019, and they used to travel almost every month, sometimes twice a month to visit family.

I personally have a hard time believing random Chinese are transiting through given how strict I've heard border controls and immigration is up in Hanoi.
Andy is referring to informal entries
I know.

Hanoi was on a fairly extreme lockdown, as was HCMC, and police were stopping people everywhere all the time in broad daylight and often times preventing people from leaving their houses or opening any kind of business in many districts (family members included). So given the severity of the police presence it would seem rather unattractive for those trying to bumble their way to SHV to do so through Vietnam as opposed somewhere like Laos in my view, given the relative lack of borders up north and much heavier Chinese presence there.

Just my view.
I live in the north of Vietnam, near the border, and it is an open secret that Chinese are crossing illegally every day. Dome do get caught but it is a difficult border to patrol and many get through.
I was hoping you'd chip in :) Thanks for that.

Most of my ex's family that still live in Vietnam (minus one) are down south in HCMC, and I'm guessing they're probably a bit too convinced from news reports that the government has everything under control up North.
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Re: Expats returning to China

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I'd discourage anyone from returning to teaching English in China now. It's a very different place post-Covid. Great money to be made, but at a price.
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Re: Expats returning to China

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Ong Tay wrote: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:19 am
AE86 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 4:18 pm
nemo wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:57 pm
AE86 wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 3:42 pm Vietnam has been damn near very impossible to get in, even for many Vietnamese. My ex's family (being Vietnamese) have not been back since 2019, and they used to travel almost every month, sometimes twice a month to visit family.

I personally have a hard time believing random Chinese are transiting through given how strict I've heard border controls and immigration is up in Hanoi.
Andy is referring to informal entries
I know.

Hanoi was on a fairly extreme lockdown, as was HCMC, and police were stopping people everywhere all the time in broad daylight and often times preventing people from leaving their houses or opening any kind of business in many districts (family members included). So given the severity of the police presence it would seem rather unattractive for those trying to bumble their way to SHV to do so through Vietnam as opposed somewhere like Laos in my view, given the relative lack of borders up north and much heavier Chinese presence there.

Just my view.
Plus, China is building a wall on the border with Vietnam and Myanmar: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-25/ ... r/13068344

I wonder if they're going to try to make Vietnam pay for it?!
Hardly a wall more of a fence.
It’s amusing that anything China does the west twist it to suit their agenda. Propaganda at its finest.

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