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wylde wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:59 pm
Kammekor wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:35 pm
Sirhaden1 wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:22 pm Phnompenh hospital is Bangkok hospital, so that might not be so bad.
Double the price of Bangkok hospital though...
I don't quite understand.
Your man said PP hospital is Bangkok hospital, so what exactly is double the price of Bangkok hospital?
Royal Phnom Penh hospital (member of the Bangkok hospital group) charges about double what the Bangkok hospital (also member of the Bangkok hospital group) charges.
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AndyKK wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:43 pm I come from the UK and operation cost's are free on the national health service, with our NI contribution. But we do have a small prescription charge on per item of medicines. I can understand you getting frustrated when you can't get something done, but what about, like us the option of private health care, we're in our case, we have to pay for that private service.
Again I think if undertaking a operation in this country without a choice of other options is an absolutely crazy thought, and I would say too if you made the choice in your own mind to do so, I would have thought about you being that of a heavy drug user that has no clearer thought on his own condition. In my past and ongoing visits too doctors with my partners problems, gives thet true meaning of the expression of wonder.
But it is the individuals choice, and the amount of drugs they are taking to think of such a venture into the unknown twilight zone. Also if you take the option I wish you the best of luck and a speedy recovery.
I believe the UK and Australia has a reciprocal agreement when it comes to healthcare. Medication is full price unless one is unemployed or disabled, then it's a flat rate of around $6 AU each unless the meds are uncommon, then they're full price. All surgery in Australia is likewise completely free, providing it's deemed necessary, although people with public health requiring elective (not urgent) surgery, must suffer while they go onto a waiting list - delays between 30 days and 2 years depending on the urgency. Even if you offer to pay up for surgery, they don't care. Australian Medicare have explained, multiple times, that they should provide a surgeon with the same remuneration as they'd otherwise receive privately, so it isn't a money issue, it's a laziness issue. Take into account the wait time to see a specialist in my local area (100ks) can be up to 3 months just for a consultation, so they aren't exactly struggling to find work. Private health insurance here does allow one to skip waiting times for elective surgery but the hospital stay and surgery account must be settled in full and then be reimbursed by your insurer, sometimes totalling tens of thousands. The cost of seeing specialists also receives a higher refund than Medicare but does SFA to help with waiting times, and they're about the only differences between private and public.

Like I said before, the plan was to travel straight to Korea and do everything there, however Omicron has delayed the Korean border reopening, so I was tossing up between sitting around home jerking off or visiting SE Asia to bang some girls while waiting. Of the two choices, I believe I've opted to follow the correct path. About the Oxy, when I first started taking it I'd fly to the moon regularly, but it doesn't take long to build a tolerance, so taking it has as much effect on me as do a couple of Aspirins. It doesn't impair my judgement in any way, and as I'll be in country anyway, asking about surgery in Cambodia was just an idea.

Thanks for the well wishes, but once the incision in my foot heals, the rest is all a downhill trip.
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Kammekor wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:02 pm
Royal Phnom Penh hospital (member of the Bangkok hospital group) charges about double what the Bangkok hospital (also member of the Bangkok hospital group) charges.
Ah, I see.

Thanks for clarifying.
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Kammekor wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:45 pm In Cambodia you can get loads of prescription medication over the counter, but for some reason certain meds are very hard to obtain.

Guess what... OXY is one of them.
I figured. Sourcing it illegally isn't what I'm all about, no script is just one hassle out of the way. If I need to dick around getting a prescription, especially if it makes the whole process easier and safer, that's what I'll do. I haven't completely dismissed Thailand or Vietnam, however Thailand especially might make me a nervous wreck. I'm also concerned about getting wrecked and grabbing a Bangkok trap to bang. As it'll be first trip, that's a concern I have with every part of SE Asia. One thing at a time.
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afaik there are direct flights from australia to Phuket and affordable I am told>
Do the 7 days phuket sandbox, bring ur script and visit Siriroj hospital or to save money, Mission hospital

why would u be nervous>
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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phuketrichard wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:13 pm why would u be nervous>
Drug laws. I'm not that worried, but it's something that'll always be in the back of my mind.

Korean and Japanese police are very, very soft unless you do something really stupid, but I don't get the same lax feeling about Thai police. Korean and Japanese police hate dealing with foreigners because they'll need to use English and lose face. One example was when I got breath tested in Korea and I was surely over. I used the testing machine like a mic to interview the officer in English. He got really embarrassed and told me to go. 🤪 that's typical in pretty much any situation, unless you do something serious.

Once I arrive and see the place first hand my balls will surely drop, until then I'll continue to mildly stress a little.

Phuket doesn't appear to be the quarantine punishment that other countries impose. Nice!

I'm not entirely certain what's happening just yet. I sent off three emails to Cambodia and Vietnam today, and it looks as though more will leave tomorrow. Once I sort out the issue at hand, I'll be able to make solid plans, and I'll de-stress. Regarding the flights, you're correct. There are only two place with direct flights, Thailand and Singapore, and flights to other destinations must go through either country. Prices to both are pretty much the same whether I fly on 4 weeks notice or 1 day notice, under $1000. Prices have dropped considerably compared to when I looked a few days ago...

Thanks for your help today. Thailand has become much more appealing than it was yesterday. Ideally Cambodia is my preferred destination, but going to Thailand first, at least until I organise a few things, is a very viable option.
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wylde wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:24 pm
SternAAlbifrons wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 3:36 am CBD oil and other medicinal cannabis medications are now easily available anywhere in Australia via a Tele-health (telephone) consultation.
Things have changed radically in the past 12 months. It is now very simple.
Hey there.

I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I've got some news that may surprise you. MM is not available everywhere. In my OP I mentioned that I was in a rural area, so I've got to travel 200ks to get the WuFlu booster as it's not yet available here, and within the last 4 weeks MM was suggested by the Methadone doc in this area, but while it may be a decent alternative, MM also isn't available here yet. I need to see the methadone doc because no other doctors will touch opiates now.

I'd really like to know what anyone has been paying for Oxy,
3 facts
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2. Forget(!!) about Oxy in Cambodia.
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There is currently a delay with all the clinics due to Xmas, Covid related delivery situ, plus there has been a huge upswing in new patients as everyone has realised just how simple it is now.
Time from first enquiry to delivery at your door - maybe 4 weeks at present, for new patients. That should halve again when the holiday rush is over.

Specialist pain clinics are also an option - maybe suitable for you. TeleHealth access also available, from anywhere.
They will provide a full range of all modern pain management techniques. However the process is a bit more involved as you will be spending more time with a specialist doctor,
They are also more expensive, and generally suited for people who are seriously looking for genuine pain management alternatives.
(TeleHealth is available wherever you can get a telephone connection within Au).
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SternAAlbifrons wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:30 am
3 facts
1. You have been misinformed about the current situation re cannabis medicine in Australia.
2. Forget(!!) about Oxy in Cambodia.
3. These links below will lead you to simple hassle free access to cannabis medicines - IF that is your choice.

Specialist pain clinics are also an option - maybe suitable for you. TeleHealth access also available, from anywhere.
Thanks for going to the trouble of making that post.

I did notice one link on that page that might be especially useful, and that was, "educate my doctor."
If there's an option to continue this when I return home, it will be something I'll consider trying once there.

Forgetting about Oxy is easier said than done. It's not something I take for recreational enjoyment, I'll literally be a useless lump of flesh rolling around on the floor until I take the stuff, so while it'd be nice to move on from it, right now it's a necessary part of life.

I've been seeing a pain specialist since I started on Oxy in 2010. He's 200ks away, and quite useless, but without his recommendation, a GP cannot prescribe S8s. Pain specialists don't prescribe, not the ones in this area at least. They write a letter annually the GP requires before Medicare will release an authority number to make the GPs prescription valid. While Physio has been suggested to help with the pain and movement restrictions from many of my fractures, there's absolutely nothing that can be done to ease my suffering from the abdominal pain I endure.

BTW. Due to the complexities on the consultations, Telehealth has only become an option since the onset of the WuFlu. Once face to face consultations resume I'll most likely be back to that.
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wylde wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 5:43 pm
armchairlawyer wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:48 am
Yes, the Royal Phnom Penh is part of the Bangkok Hospital group (as in Bumrungrad now).
They do have some good doctors, I can vouch for the Thai uroologist and the Burmese obs/gyne surgeons, and a Thai radiologist.
I would not be happy to just accept anyone there without a solid prior recco, however.
Also, if you don't have insurance coverage, the Royal can be super expensive.
A second opinion is always valuable, especially in Cambodia, thanks.
I received most of my damage when I was 20, and insurance hasn't been interested in me since. Are you able to give me an example of their prices, for, say, a consultation?
As long as it's not too far north of $50 US, it'll be a monthly thing and therefore affordable. Hell, even if it's $100+, if it means flying or not, it's nothing. I'll send them an email and see what they've got to say for themselves. Do they have a pharmacy onsite or is that my problem? I guess the email will answer that, too. I'll most likely forget about any surgery, but I'd be interested to know their opinion on Oxy.
A consult at the Royal PP is very reasonable, normally about $40. They will try hard to upsell of course. And if they want to perform any diagnostic procedures, such as u/s scans, these are highly priced. Ditto their pharmacy.
If it's the meds you want, Retired Sailor, who said go from pharmacy to pharmacy asking, had the right idea.
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Thanks for going to the trouble of making that post.

I did notice one link on that page that might be especially useful, and that was, "educate my doctor."
If there's an option to continue this when I return home, it will be something I'll consider trying once there.

Forgetting about Oxy is easier said than done. It's not something I take for recreational enjoyment, I'll literally be a useless lump of flesh rolling around on the floor until I take the stuff, so while it'd be nice to move on from it, right now it's a necessary part of life.

I've been seeing a pain specialist since I started on Oxy in 2010. He's 200ks away, and quite useless, but without his recommendation, a GP cannot prescribe S8s. Pain specialists don't prescribe, not the ones in this area at least. They write a letter annually the GP requires before Medicare will release an authority number to make the GPs prescription valid. While Physio has been suggested to help with the pain and movement restrictions from many of my fractures, there's absolutely nothing that can be done to ease my suffering from the abdominal pain I endure.

BTW. Due to the complexities on the consultations, Telehealth has only become an option since the onset of the WuFlu. Once face to face consultations resume I'll most likely be back to that.
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Its difficult but possible to find oxycodone in Cambodia, but its STUPID expensive, approximately $1/mg, i.e. $40/40mg. Its not a matter of getting a prescription or not (for practical purposes there's no such thing as prescription medicine in cambodia everything is sold over the counter), its just not a medication that's used in the country. You're much better off buying morphine (oral/IV is available), dihydrocodeine, tramadol or diacetylmorphine which are all dirt cheap in Cambo and will substitute fine for oxycodone given the right dosage- just us a MME (morphine milligram equivalent) calculator. Opiates are opiates and are largely fungible notwithstanding some differences in half-life, side-effects, etc
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