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agree with Michael Moore or not he makes some very good points>
Guns don’t kill people. Americans kill people. We’re great killers. Whether we’re invading countries, selling trillions of dollars of weapons to dictatorships, using drones to bomb a wedding in Yemen — or the 45,000 times a year we kill our spouse, ex-girlfriend, estranged brother, the neighbor we’re fighting with, the boss who fired us, the student who bullied us, or we simply decide to end our own life with the handy gun that’s already in the house, making it the quickest and easiest way to end our misery
And here’s why this should not be so hard to fix. We are not a nation of gun nuts. 78% of us do not own a gun! According to a 2016 investigation by Harvard-Northeastern, just 22% of all Americans own a gun, mostly for hunting. And here’s the good — and not-so-good — news: Only 3% of this country owns half of all our guns!

https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/gunanddo ... 01Du8xIWXI


stop the violence.
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61% of those deaths are suicides. Tragedies in their own right, I realize.

(Pro-gun site, but the data checks out.)
https://everytownresearch.org/report/fi ... ed-states/
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he makes some good points if you read the article:

Seldom are mass shootings committed by a woman or young girl.
"An FBI study of 160 “active shooter” incidents between 2000 and 2013 found that only 6 incidents, or 3.8%, were perpetrated by a female shooter. "

Mass shootings are committed by whites (66%)
more than
Blacks 21%

YET:
Blacks commit twice as many felony mass shootings as whites (50.49 percent versus 22.33 percent),
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In 2016, the NYT printed data indicating that blacks committed around 75% of mass shootings in the US. This is only the solved cases, mind you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us/a ... lence.html


Yes, violent crime is overwhelmingly a young, male activity
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I read much of the article. Pretty rich coming from this wealthy dude.
You’re scared of DeAngelo or Lamar or whatever Black or Hispanic name you’ve made up and placed in your head, where it grinds away, making you stupid and scared. Stop it! They are not on their way to your doorstep. You have to knock this off. You need to examine and own the racism that fuels your fears and your need for “protection.”
I'll translate:
"Reality is racist!"
"Don't look at the stats, listen to me!"
"Hey, working class white dude, YOU are the problem!"

Typical for this awful human being.
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Big Daikon wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:31 am In 2016, the NYT printed data indicating that blacks committed around 75% of mass shootings in the US. This is only the solved cases, mind you.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us/a ... lence.html


Yes, violent crime is overwhelmingly a young, male activity
stats : wonder whose right?
Number of mass shootings in the United States between 1982 and November 2021, by shooter's race or ethnicity
Between 1982 and November 2021, 66 out of the 125 mass shootings in the United States were carried out by white shooters. By comparison, the perpetrator was African American in 21 mass shootings, and Latino in 10. When calculated as percentages, this amounts to 53 percent, 17 percent, and eight percent respectively.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476 ... er-s-race/
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Interesting data. I showed the data from one year, while your link lists a longer period of time. Still, per capita calculations showed blacks being overrepresented in mass shootings.

To be fair, mass shootings are only a small fraction of violent crime in the US. They just tend to get more of a splash in the media. Until recently, that is.
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I never understood the whole defence versus tyranny angle. What good is a guy (good or bad) with an AR-15, and his mates, versus an apache chopper or an Abrams tank - let alone the dude with his finger on the nukes? Times have changed from redcoats & muskets ..

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Spigzy wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:30 pm I never understood the whole defence versus tyranny angle. What good is a guy (good or bad) with an AR-15, and his mates, versus an apache chopper or an Abrams tank - let alone the dude with his finger on the nukes? Times have changed from redcoats & muskets ..

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People should buy tanks. Problem solved.
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