rozzieoz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:21 am

xandreu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:57 am The idea of writing CVs and having to essentially prostitute yourself in front of complete strangers in order to be given the opportunity to make them lots of money has always disgusted me to be honest.

Prostituting myself????
I run a legitimate business, helping people to secure their future in a new country.

Are recruiters also prostituting themselves?
How about migration agents? Are they whores as well?

What a ridiculous attitude to business.

You’ve taken my post 100% out of context and after re-reading it again I can see why. I wasn’t in any way referring to you as a prostitute. I would never speak that way either in real life or online and I’m really sorry if I wasn’t clear in what I was saying.

What I was talking about was the fact that I’ve always had a problem with people having to put so much time and effort into getting a job (prostitution without the sex if you will) where you are made to feel that you should be grateful at being given the opportunity to make your employers rich.

It was merely a general observation on the way the world works and wasn’t aimed at anyone personally.

As I said, I know it’s not a common opinion but it’s mine.

You will never be as rich as your boss and by working for other people, you will never receive the true value of your real worth.

Sorry again if I wasn’t clear in my OP.

NKONB - Yes, I do get it and I do understand why companies require CV's and depending on the job being applied for, the need to go through lengthy interview processes. But let's face it, people, at best, exaggerate on their CV's all the time. They can often become nothing more than a competition between who can come up with the most imaginative, most impressive sounding, yet ultimately meaningless adjectives.

You will never know a persons true character or ability to do the job unless you actually hire them. I worked in the corporate sector for several years. Never, ever again. While I did meet some great people, I can honestly say that I've also never met so many arrogant tossers that were totally and utterly incapable of doing even a fraction of the work they were supposed to be doing, yet were under some sort of illusion that they were the cherry on the cake. Not a day went by when I didn't wonder to myself how someone ever got past the selection process. In my experience, the corporate world is almost exclusively about the ability to talk the talk rather than walk the walk.

And it all starts with that bullshit adjective-laden CV.

xandreu wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:54 am
You will never know a persons true character or ability to do the job unless you actually hire them. I worked in the corporate sector for several years. Never, ever again. While I did meet some great people, I can honestly say that I've also never met so many arrogant tossers that were totally and utterly incapable of doing even a fraction of the work they were supposed to be doing, yet were under some sort of illusion that they were the cherry on the cake. Not a day went by when I didn't wonder to myself how someone ever got past the selection process.

Isn't this just a general type of thing? I mean, I have worked in education from the age of 22 until I was in my thirties and I have wondered countless times how someone could end up at his or her position. Both teachers and management.

Looking back I feel like people tend to stay at their current job for too long. Once they've been around for a certain period they become part of the organization's culture and it becomes very hard to get rid of them. Both law and the culture of the organization will work against that.

mannanman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:54 am Ahh Roz’ you could just not post to the silly comments…

It is true that most CVS are embellished. Mine is 80% fiction and changed so much I’ve forgotten what I’ve actually done and when employment wise.

Do people still put “I’m a team player and work well in groups?”

They say you’ve got 5 seconds to grab a future employees interest.

exactly:
Something about all this concern with writing a cv reminds me of the book / movie, "Catch me if you can"
when i was looking for work, decades ago, i would always tweak my cv according to the job i was applying for.,
assumed anyone that really wanted the job would do the same