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It's so great that Cambodia has such a lovely benevolent friend.
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johnny lightning wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:46 am You know full well (or you should) that western countries normally have strings attached to their largesse for things like say human rights, rule of law etc. Those pesky things that some countries and their citizens still care about (or at least pretend to). No surprise that China steps up and says do whatever you like as long as we get what we want. Pretty simple really.
The American deal typically includes feminism and LGBT stuff, which is often quite alien to the receiving nations. Afghanistan, for example.

The Chinese deal doesn't include such things and so probably seems more attractive to many nations.
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Big Daikon wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:18 pm
johnny lightning wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:46 am You know full well (or you should) that western countries normally have strings attached to their largesse for things like say human rights, rule of law etc. Those pesky things that some countries and their citizens still care about (or at least pretend to). No surprise that China steps up and says do whatever you like as long as we get what we want. Pretty simple really.
The American deal typically includes feminism and LGBT stuff, which is often quite alien to the receiving nations. Afghanistan, for example.

The Chinese deal doesn't include such things and so probably seems more attractive to many nations.
Like if I go to the bank for a mortgage and the bank manager says, OK we will lend you the money, but you gotta vote republican, you gotta put up the flag outside your house, and you have to go to church, mow the lawn and wash the car every Sunday. So I go to the Bank of China, they say, pay it back and do what else the f you like. Tough choice?
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hdgh29 wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:23 am but you gotta vote republican, you gotta put up the flag outside your house, and you have to go to church, mow the lawn and wash the car every Sunday.
Most of that sounds perfectly fine with me. Such people make great neighbors.

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Big Daikon wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:18 pm
johnny lightning wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:46 am You know full well (or you should) that western countries normally have strings attached to their largesse for things like say human rights, rule of law etc. Those pesky things that some countries and their citizens still care about (or at least pretend to). No surprise that China steps up and says do whatever you like as long as we get what we want. Pretty simple really.
The American deal typically includes feminism and LGBT stuff, which is often quite alien to the receiving nations. Afghanistan, for example.

The Chinese deal doesn't include such things and so probably seems more attractive to many nations.
You're right, developing nations are accepting Chinese authoritarianism because muh gay rights amerikkkan agenda

Not because all these countries are ran by decrepit old men and corruption
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Darkcel wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:24 pm
Big Daikon wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 12:18 pm
johnny lightning wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:46 am You know full well (or you should) that western countries normally have strings attached to their largesse for things like say human rights, rule of law etc. Those pesky things that some countries and their citizens still care about (or at least pretend to). No surprise that China steps up and says do whatever you like as long as we get what we want. Pretty simple really.
The American deal typically includes feminism and LGBT stuff, which is often quite alien to the receiving nations. Afghanistan, for example.

The Chinese deal doesn't include such things and so probably seems more attractive to many nations.
You're right, developing nations are accepting Chinese authoritarianism because muh gay rights amerikkkan agenda

Not because all these countries are ran by decrepit old men and corruption
Yeah, that as well. Good point.
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