New Normal for Restaurants - SOP's

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:15 pm

TWY wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:33 pm No data on the Chinese vaccines.

Just on that, the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) in the last few days recognised Sinovac and quote:

Coronavac (Sinovac) showed an average Vaccine Efficacy and Effectiveness (VE) against symptomatic infection of 64% and an average VE against hospitalisation of 90%.

VE against symptomatic infection (surrogate for transmission) of 54%, 54%, 64%, 66% and 84% in five studies.
VE against severe infection/hospitalisation of 100%, 100%, 88% and 73% in four trials.
The standard schedule of Coronavac is 2 doses administered 14-28 days apart.

Based on regulatory, published and pre-print data this suggests the efficacy of Coronavac is comparable to the Australian-approved vaccines, although marginally lower in protection against symptomatic infection.

https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-vaccine ... ecognition

TWY · Post by **TWY** » Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:35 pm

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:15 pm
TWY wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:33 pm No data on the Chinese vaccines.
Just on that, the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) in the last few days recognised Sinovac and quote:

Coronavac (Sinovac) showed an average Vaccine Efficacy and Effectiveness (VE) against symptomatic infection of 64% and an average VE against hospitalisation of 90%.

VE against symptomatic infection (surrogate for transmission) of 54%, 54%, 64%, 66% and 84% in five studies.
VE against severe infection/hospitalisation of 100%, 100%, 88% and 73% in four trials.
The standard schedule of Coronavac is 2 doses administered 14-28 days apart.

Based on regulatory, published and pre-print data this suggests the efficacy of Coronavac is comparable to the Australian-approved vaccines, although marginally lower in protection against symptomatic infection.

https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-vaccine ... ecognition

That is not based on the Delta variant. The 4 numbers quoted above came from Turkey, Argentina, UAE and one other country's health agencies against the original strain. As far as I've seen there is no published study on the effectiveness of Sinovac against the Delta variant.

I expect all will be approved for the simple reason that its a political fight not worth fighting. All countries will have citizens that received the Chinese vaccines and there would be an incredible outcry if a country didn't allow these vaccines in the short term.

Kammekor · Post by **Kammekor** » Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:41 pm

TWY wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:35 pm

I expect all will be approved for the simple reason that its a political fight not worth fighting. All countries will have citizens that received the Chinese vaccines and there would be an incredible outcry if a country didn't allow these vaccines in the short term.

Since the WHO approved it, it will be pretty hard for countries to not approve. Most countries have a policy one needs a national approved vaccine or a WHO approved vaccine. At least the EU does, and if the EU does many will follow.

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Sun Oct 03, 2021 9:19 pm

TWY wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:35 pm
clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:15 pm
TWY wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:33 pm No data on the Chinese vaccines.
Just on that, the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) in the last few days recognised Sinovac and quote:

Coronavac (Sinovac) showed an average Vaccine Efficacy and Effectiveness (VE) against symptomatic infection of 64% and an average VE against hospitalisation of 90%.

VE against symptomatic infection (surrogate for transmission) of 54%, 54%, 64%, 66% and 84% in five studies.
VE against severe infection/hospitalisation of 100%, 100%, 88% and 73% in four trials.
The standard schedule of Coronavac is 2 doses administered 14-28 days apart.

Based on regulatory, published and pre-print data this suggests the efficacy of Coronavac is comparable to the Australian-approved vaccines, although marginally lower in protection against symptomatic infection.

https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-vaccine ... ecognition
That is not based on the Delta variant. The 4 numbers quoted above came from Turkey, Argentina, UAE and one other country's health agencies against the original strain. As far as I've seen there is no published study on the effectiveness of Sinovac against the Delta variant.

I expect all will be approved for the simple reason that its a political fight not worth fighting. All countries will have citizens that received the Chinese vaccines and there would be an incredible outcry if a country didn't allow these vaccines in the short term.

Yes, you're right I think, I wasn't sure whether they got any later data. Although I'd think the US vaccines in the above table might also be based on pre-Delta data unless they used the more recent post Delta studies I posted here: post513984.html#p513984 which shows infection efficacy declining to an average of 50%.

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:19 am

Well, back to Cambodia.

What's open and what's closed ?
How's the "new normal" going in Phnom Penh ? What's changed since the last set of rules ? Nothing ? KTVs and beer gardens are still closed, but Naga is open for business ?

So confusing, and the rules change every week in different cities.
How about Siem Reap ? Open or closed now ? Officially open I think, but I suppose a lot of places are closed until next week. I see that Sihanoukville is still open for online gambling, kidnapping, modern slavery, and extortion (yeah,that's news.) I also heard they have some new public toilets to stop people from shitting on the beach during the holidays (that's good

).

Is anyone even paying any attention to all this ? Hope you got some beer in before the holidays.
Cheers all

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:54 am

Cleaned up a few posts. A certain member can have 24hrs off for trolling.

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