Random Dude wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:47 am

TWY wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:01 pm

ali baba wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 2:10 pm Covid is a force of nature so there's no one to blame.
Deaths were spread out over 18+ months.
Even if patient zero contracted it in a lab it wouldn't change anything anyway.

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Force of nature? I don't think so.

Humans, more specifically the CCP leadership of China knew for 2 and a half weeks that the virus was being transmitted from human to human and they lied about it and applied all available political pressure to keep international travel from China open. Why? To ensure the pain was shared.

They are the enemy of all freedom loving people. And they are responsible for the pandemic. Somehow African strongmen are able to alert the world when there is an ebola outbreak and shut things down, but the CCP made a political calculation that it was better for the virus to spread to everyone than for them to suffer alone.

The Wuhan lab produced it and the CCP ensured all humanity would suffer.

https://www.newsweek.com/wuhan-lab-want ... ow-1631784

For sure, the CCP dropped the ball in the initial stages and that's on them. I can imagine how it probably played out.. It was Chinese New Year - the biggest human migration on Earth - lower officials would have been shitting themselves realising they had to tell their superiors they might need to cancel CNY and piss off over a billion people because there seemed to be a nasty case of the flu (that's what everyone thought in the initial stages remember) going around. And so they were slow to act. I'm sure there was a lot of arse covering and trying to ignore the problem going on as is normal with any crisis there.

But then, after the news came out and the world knew the situation our politicians did nothing. In some cases they deliberately played down the risk, told the world it was nothing, ignore it and it'll go away... carry on going out there and spending people. To this day there are still politicians and citizens actively encouraging the spread of the virus. They do everything they can to stop people wearing masks, getting the vaccines, social distancing to try to stamp it out when it gets into a community.

At this point I think playing the blame game is pointless because nobody is without fault here but if I was to go down that path I'd put the blame squarely on the people who, when the virus could have contained deliberately took actions to ensure it would continue to spread worldwide and mutate, and they did this - and still are - knowing full well what the situation was.

China (and possibly the US) was playing with matches and accidentally started a fire, the rest of the world refused to put out the sparks from that fire when they started falling in their back yards - in fact they poured gas on the fire and wouldn't let people fight the fire in their back yard - and now the whole town is on fire.

xandreu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 8:21 pm Never mind the many other questions that need to be answered, especially surrounding China's initial response, just that one single fact that the first case of covid just happened to occur in one of the only three cities in the world that carries out the type of research that makes outbreaks like this possible, warrants a full and thorough investigation. In anyone's book. Surely?