Following the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak - News and Discussion

jah steu · Post by **jah steu** » Tue May 18, 2021 6:53 am

This is a very encouraging statement from the CDC about vaccinated people not having to wear masks in almost all situations.
It basically says that the overall benefits outweigh the slight risk of getting infected or of transmitting the virus to other people.
We can just hope that countries start taking up these recommendations from the respected CDC.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... dance.html

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timmydownawell · Post by **timmydownawell** » Tue May 18, 2021 8:31 am

jah steu wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:37 am I’d always wondered whether achieving herd immunity against such a pervasive virus was actually possible. This article discusses that and what our world will be like if we can’t quite achieve it. It seems it will be ok.

https://theconversation.com/herd-immuni ... ngs-160228

The new French multi-strain vaccine sounds promising. If that pans out and can go global - and enough people trust in it - I think herd immunity may well be possible. But it would still take a concerted effort by governments, carrot and stick approach perhaps.

yongchi · Post by **yongchi** » Tue May 18, 2021 9:12 am

timmydownawell wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 8:31 am
jah steu wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:37 am I’d always wondered whether achieving herd immunity against such a pervasive virus was actually possible. This article discusses that and what our world will be like if we can’t quite achieve it. It seems it will be ok.

https://theconversation.com/herd-immuni ... ngs-160228

The new French multi-strain vaccine sounds promising. If that pans out and can go global - and enough people trust in it - I think herd immunity may well be possible. But it would still take a concerted effort by governments, carrot and stick approach perhaps.

Looking at the results from Israel (see attached screenshots from a recent Dr. Campbell video, data Johns Hopkins), it appears they are getting close to it, with 60% fully vaccinated using the Pfizer vaccine.

I hope I am not too optimistic.

How this can be replicated across the world (and using other vaccines) remains to be seen.
And, with the current huge outbreaks elsewhere more variants will appear, so folks may have to receive a couple of booster shots until most of the world is on board.

jah steu · Post by **jah steu** » Tue May 18, 2021 9:23 am

yongchi wrote: How this can be replicated across the world (and using other vaccines) remains to be seen.
And, with the current huge outbreaks elsewhere more variants will appear, so folks may have to receive a couple of booster shots until most of the world is on board.

This is the key issue. Unless the entire world manages to eradicate the corona virus, it will always be present somewhere.
Only one infectious disease has ever been completely eradicated - smallpox - and that took a huge global effort over many years.
But as the above article says, we will hopefully reach a point where we can live with the virus being around on a small scale, with the help of booster shots and sensible measures to reduce transmission.

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Phnom Poon · Post by **Phnom Poon** » Tue May 18, 2021 10:48 am

exactly, nobody is safe until everybody is

Dunderhead · Post by **Dunderhead** » Tue May 18, 2021 12:45 pm

Since the survival rate for those infected is 99.8 % you are already safe, now back to your regularly scheduled fear porn.

Doc67 · Post by **Doc67** » Tue May 18, 2021 1:39 pm

Dunderhead wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 12:45 pm Since the survival rate for those infected is 99.8 % you are already safe, now back to your regularly scheduled fear porn.

Tell that to the 0.2% or, put another way, 3,400,000 dead people so far.

Random Dude · Post by **Random Dude** » Wed May 19, 2021 3:42 am

Dunderhead wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 12:45 pm Since the survival rate for those infected is 99.8 % you are already safe, now back to your regularly scheduled fear porn.

Yep, with those stats you probably won't die, you might end up going through the horrible, terrifying experience of not being able to breathe and having to be ventilated but you'll have a pretty good chance of surviving it. At least, as long as you're lucky enough to get into a hospital and they have the resources to look after you, when hundreds of people are queued up all needing the same bed though you might have a really bad day ahead of you. Also, you'd better plan on not having an accident or medical emergency during a bad outbreak for the same reason.

And if you're one of the unfortunates who have symptoms that leave them unable to work or function properly for months on end - possibly forever who knows - don't worry about it, you're one of the 99.8 % in the 'safe' zone, you'll be sweet mate.

BklynBoy · Post by **BklynBoy** » Wed May 19, 2021 4:18 am

CEOCambodiaNews wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 1:14 am Covid: Taiwan orders toughest curbs amid infections spike
Published 3 hours ago
BBC
Taiwan's government has imposed its toughest restrictions so far, as the island tries to battle a spike in Covid-19 cases.

The authorities are shutting down cinemas and entertainment venues until 28 May, while limiting gatherings to five indoors and 10 outdoors.

President Tsai Ing-wen urged the public not to panic-buy basic necessities.

Taiwan - which has so far survived the pandemic almost unscathed - on Sunday reported 207 new infections.

The island of 23 million people has recorded 1,682 infections and 12 Covid-related deaths since the start of the pandemic.

Taiwan's impressive success battling the coronavirus has been largely attributed to early and strict border controls, a ban on foreign visitors and mandatory quarantine for all Taiwanese returning home.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57135647

UGH.. i was about to purchase my flight w/ EVA AIRLINES> I am flying July 27th-- i still have time and Eva is allowing me to purchase the ticket but will wait and see what happens.

Transiting through
Tao-Yuan Int'l Airport(Transit travelers will be temporarily barred from entry Taiwan during 19May-18June)

Considering the recent escalation of COVID-19 cases internationally and within Taiwan, and to safeguard domestic antipandemic security and protect people’s health, the Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC) announced on May 17 that entry to Taiwan will be suspended from 00:00 on May 19 (local time of departure) to June 18 for foreign nationals not holding a valid R.O.C. (Taiwan) Resident Cert

https://www.boca.gov.tw/cp-220-5081-c06dc-2.html

yongchi · Post by **yongchi** » Wed May 19, 2021 7:39 am

BklynBoy wrote: ↑Wed May 19, 2021 4:18 am
Covid: Taiwan orders toughest curbs amid infections spike
Published 3 hours ago
BBC
Taiwan's government has imposed its toughest restrictions so far, as the island tries to battle a spike in Covid-19 cases.

The authorities are shutting down cinemas and entertainment venues until 28 May, while l
UGH.. i was about to purchase my flight w/ EVA AIRLINES> I am flying July 27th-- i still have time and Eva is allowing me to purchase the ticket but will wait and see what happens.

Transiting through
Tao-Yuan Int'l Airport(Transit travelers will be temporarily barred from entry Taiwan during 19May-18June)

Considering the recent escalation of COVID-19 cases internationally and within Taiwan, and to safeguard domestic antipandemic security and protect people’s health, the Central Epidemic Command Center (CECC) announced on May 17 that entry to Taiwan will be suspended from 00:00 on May 19 (local time of departure) to June 18 for foreign nationals not holding a valid R.O.C. (Taiwan) Resident Cert

https://www.boca.gov.tw/cp-220-5081-c06dc-2.html

Reading the announcement above I thought transit might perhaps still be possible.

But according to the update for Taiwan (2021-05-18) from traveldoc.aearo, even transit through Taiwan is currently not permitted:

“ Taiwan
Passengers are not permitted to enter Taiwan.
This does not apply to:
nationals of Taiwan;
passengers holding a valid Alien Resident Certificate (ARC) issued by Taiwan;
passengers travelling for emergency or humanitarian reasons, provided they have obtained entry permission issued by Taiwan.
Transfer/Transit in Taiwan is currently suspended.”

From https://infopages.traveldoc.aero/Inform ... oronavirus

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