Covid-19 has worsened a shaky rule of law environment

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:48 pm

Error404 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:46 am Duh, that was the purpose of covid-19; so that the government could control us and violate our civil liberties and basic human rights all in the name of saving lives.

Without mentioning names, there are quite a few totalitarian states (incl one that has a president for life) that already have control over civil liberties and basic human rights.....so to those conspiracy theory advocates, do you really believe in your wildest dreams that they would need to step up that control due to covid?

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:02 pm

samrong01 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:42 am If lockdowns and other measures are successful then why after more than a year is the virus still around? Are you saying the virus is less now than before? That is what is simply not true.

Answer: coz this virus and its mutations are very virulent and some governments and citizens have been in denial about it's severity and the enforcement of measures and associated compliance often has been lax.

Perhaps the better question might be: If lockdowns and other measures had not not been brought in, then how much worse would the impact of the virus be now? You only have to have a look at what's happening in India and Brazil right now and that will give you an idea of the answer. Contrast that with Australia, New Zealand, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Singapore as examples that had strict measures.

nemo · Post by **nemo** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:05 pm

Error404 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:46 am
Duh, that was the purpose of covid-19; so that the government could control us and violate our civil liberties and basic human rights all in the name of saving lives.

They already do that. Duh.

nemo · Post by **nemo** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:08 pm

Maybe we are just seeing the opening act given the so called "double mutation" strain now running wild in India.
The more infections, the greater the chance that a highly deadly strain may emerge.

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:27 pm

nemo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:08 pm Maybe we are just seeing the opening act given the so called "double mutation" strain now running wild in India.
The more infections, the greater the chance that a highly deadly strain may emerge.

Don't want to sound unduly morose but I fear what we are witnessing might be something akin to the 2nd wave in 1918 that was more deadly. Of course they didn't have vaccines then but for many countries now, the roll out is oh so slow and this gives the virus more time/chance to develop mutations like the one in India. And the implications of that as far as law enforcement are scary..

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:50 pm

Who implemented lockdowns effectively?
Australia, NZ, China, Iceland, Vietnam, etc.
ie, any competent country that still has its shit together.
- but none, it seems, of all of those failing states/fading powers that couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery these days.

Divided and broken and on the way out. The signs have been there for a while now but Covid has laid it all quite bare.
sorry

:stir:

jah steu · Post by **jah steu** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:51 pm

The Indian “double mutation” variant is probably not as bad as it sounds. And less deadly than the new UK variant. See the link below. It seems the main reason for the recent huge surge in cases in India is more to do with allowing huge religious public gatherings to take place as well as big election rallies.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-56844925

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newkidontheblock · Post by **newkidontheblock** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:05 pm

It isn’t the fatality rate that makes this virus so dangerous. In high fatality rate infections, like Ebola, the solution is to isolate. Everyone will be dead in days.

This virus is much more insidious. People get very sick for a long time. Even survivors have long lasting health issues. As such, this virus eats up precious health care resources, which is a lot more dangerous for western countries.

As for the alcohol, almost all western countries shut down the bars in response. Drunks don’t follow social distancing guidelines very well.

In Cambodia, drinking is a social thing. The average Khmer does not drink alone. So the logical response is to ban alcohol sales.

Really the only way out is mass vaccination. Turn the virus into something less serious, less deadly to health care systems.

On TV at home (in the US), there are campaigns to encourage people to get their vaccinations. While in Cambodia, lots of members on CEO would gladly do anything to get a Pfizer or Moderna vaccine.

fsdfdsdf · Post by **fsdfdsdf** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:26 pm

Also with alcohol you take off the mask to do it usually in the exact situation where you are should be wearing a mask. Close to people and talking or shouting at them if it's noisy

nerdlinger · Post by **nerdlinger** » Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:08 pm

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:48 pm
Error404 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 23, 2021 1:46 am Duh, that was the purpose of covid-19; so that the government could control us and violate our civil liberties and basic human rights all in the name of saving lives.
Without mentioning names, there are quite a few totalitarian states (incl one that has a president for life) that already have control over civil liberties and basic human rights.....so to those conspiracy theory advocates, do you really believe in your wildest dreams that they would need to step up that control due to covid?

The real question is why are so many of you engaging with such a blatantly obvious troll?

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