KHR fixed term deposit

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clutchcargo wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:28 pm
samrong01 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:57 pm I have never said the rates changed after the start of the coronavirus hysteria.
samrong01 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:20 pm Cambodia is a small corrupt country with few resources and has recently destroyed its tourist industry which was perhaps 20% of its economy. Because of this you can get higher interest on their currency reflecting the higher sovereign risk.
Says it right there..
Please go an play your word games somewhere else.
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samrong01 wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:08 pm
clutchcargo wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:28 pm
samrong01 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:57 pm I have never said the rates changed after the start of the coronavirus hysteria.
samrong01 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:20 pm Cambodia is a small corrupt country with few resources and has recently destroyed its tourist industry which was perhaps 20% of its economy. Because of this you can get higher interest on their currency reflecting the higher sovereign risk.
Says it right there..
Please go an play your word games somewhere else.
Take 24hrs off..
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daeum_tnaot wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:44 am Hello everyone,

I am considering making a fixed term deposit in Khmer riel as opposed to USD. One MFI is offering about 1% more interest if it is in KHR. In the past I never would have thought much about this, as the exchange rate has been stable.

However, I note the taking USD 1 and $5 out of circulation. Others have also reported that some banks now are not offering less than $50 bills at ATMs. I am wondering whether this may point to a trend. I would expect that if Cambodia threatened to delink the Riel from the dollar that it would lead to a devaluation of the riel.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the relative risks of term deposit in KHR vs. USD?
Bank deposit risk 101.
Dedollarisation is a policy that they have said will continue. Yes, we may see less USD bills but that is not the relevant point when thinking about risk (unless you keep your money in cash at home).
The main issue is the peg.
The risk is that it becomes unsustainable.
When pegs break, there tends to be a sudden move down, see Thailand in 1997.
Then you have the redenomination risk that USD deposits get changed into KHR at a reduced rate. This occurs fairly regularly in Latin America .If this occurs, you have gained nothing by having the deposit in USD.
Then you have institutional risk that is specific to individual banks. For this, you need to look at the level of risky commercial real estate lending and the potential for a parent bank to step in to save depositors to protect its name. The banks with the highest profile and quality foreign parents are CIMB, Maybank and ABA.

Of course these risks exist in any country outside of the USA. And you still have institutional risk even in the USA.
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Woori. They are Korean and continue making big developments in SE Asia. M&A action in KOW. Focused on foreigners. FD APY was 8%. Finance, particularly banks should do well in 2021 (not a recommendation for a novice), and my Woori are climbing.
I still say High Yield Savings account, or Money Market. Not sure of your expertise on the markets, but a well-rounded portfolio is my best option, easily. There's also robo-advisors or brokers, which take away a lot of control, but give you liquidity. Research, research, research, then research some more.
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Are all MFI fixed term deposit interest rates dropping? I just now noticd that LOLC is reducing their highest US dollar account rate to 7% beginning next week. Just a year or so ago some of the local MFIs here were paying 8.5%...
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Yeah, I think there's all cutting rates. I was in Prasac yesterday and noticed theirs was down to 6.25% or 6.5%.

A lot of Khmer are defaulting on loans, I think. I know of one couple who purchased a 2021 Honda Dream 3 months ago on credit, then abruptly fled town, and I'm sure have already defaulted on repayments. I'm quite sure it was motivated by the desire of getting a brand-new, highly desired by Khmer moto for pennies on the dollar.

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Prasac's one year TD is still at 7.25%. Same rate for nearly a year now.
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I think china is pressuring Cambodia to switch to yuan...and get the dollar out of KOW...
Sure not a surprise..
I spent years in Mexico, Jamaica, Uruguay, Argentina and Zambia...The devaluation of currencies was mind boggling at times.
My dollars became worth so much..
Toss in black market in Jamaica and the blue market in Argentina and I was able to live large trading under the table.
I had dear friends in Argentina who had bank accounts with dollars and pesos..
Like here where you can have riel and dollars.
One day, my friends woke up and the government had declared the peso and dollar were equal..
The rest of the world sure didn't.
My friends lost tens of thousands of dollars.
I would avoid riel..
But, the way the US is pissing away dollars and printing more it is sure possible the dollar will lose value..
I have some gold..999...made great investment in 2017-18....My 2020 is moving up ...
I know a lot of gents on here know about crypto...
china trying to get crypto yuan...around world
KOW pushing ABA phone purchase...tracking your every fucking move..
I do not mind using 20,000, 10,000 etc riel..
I sure am not investing in it.
Good luck on your investing
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Cooldude wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 7:41 pm Prasac's one year TD is still at 7.25%. Same rate for nearly a year now.
Is that from in-branch?

I stopped in at HKL/Hattha Bank this week. On their website it had dropped from 7.35% to 7.25 over the last few months, but the photocopy the guy handed me had it at 7% (this is for 24 months, monthly interest). Looks like rates are dropping across the board.
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Cooldude wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 7:41 pm Prasac's one year TD is still at 7.25%. Same rate for nearly a year now.
I stand corrected. I'll blame Prasac's formatting as they had the first ten months on the front page and the last 2 months on the flip side. That's not acceptable presentation for professional service firms.
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