Getting a vaccine is pretty futile as many countries have said that even if you have been vaccinated you still have to pay for a test and quarantine anyway.

samrong01 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:54 am Getting a vaccine is pretty futile as many countries have said that even if you have been vaccinated you still have to pay for a test and quarantine anyway.

Yes, I also see this as a major issue in regards to motivating the masses to get vaccinated. Many countries have already stated that they will not change the strict entry requirements for vaccinated people, since vaccination doesn’t protect those who haven’t had the shot yet.
On the other hand: why would the people in those countries (take Cambodia for example) rush to get the shot if it really doesn’t have any tangible effect on their current lives?
Once the vulnerable have been vaccinated, things may start to stall as it looks like that for the foreseeable future it makes absolutely no difference if you are vaccinated or not.

If they could put the vaccine in beer, the whole country could be vaccinated by Thursday...

Qantas boss: Governments 'to insist' on vaccines for flying
By Jonathan Josephs
Business reporter, BBC News
Published 5 hours ago

The boss of Australian airline Qantas has told the BBC that "governments are going to insist" on vaccines for international travellers.

Coronavirus vaccines are seen as crucial to reviving an industry that saw worldwide passenger numbers fall 75.6% last year.

Chief executive Alan Joyce said many governments were talking about vaccination as "a condition of entry".

Even if they weren't, he thought the airline should enforce its own policy.

"We have a duty of care to our passengers and to our crew, to say that everybody in that aircraft needs to be safe," Mr Joyce said.

He believes that would justify changing the terms and conditions on which tickets are booked.

And Mr Joyce thinks passengers would be willing to accept the change. "The vast majority of our customers think this is a great idea - 90% of people that we've surveyed think it should be a requirement for people to be vaccinated to travel internationally."

But some powerful voices are among those who disagree, including the World Health Organisation. Its director of digital health and innovation, Bernardo Mariano, told the BBC: "We don't approve the fact that a vaccinations passport should be a condition for travel."
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-56460329

I believe China announced that foreign travelers can enter China...... if they have had the Chinese vaccine (the one that they never released stage three data on - just "trust us").

I hope Western countries take this opportunity to reciprocate and cut China off permanently. Let them live on their own and we'll live on our own.

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:17 am the US government can not force anyone to get a vaccine.

From another thread relevant to the US

Many immunisation experts worry that this “build it and they will come” approach is naive. At the moment, surveys suggest that anywhere between 20% and 60% of Americans may not accept a covid-19 vaccine. In one survey only a third of nurses said they would voluntarily get vaccinated. Some people are worried that the vaccines may not be safe, suspicious that corners may have been cut in the rush to develop them so quickly. Others have seen various kinds of alarming misinformation. Muddled messages from various political leaders have also done their share of harm.

IF you want travel thou the airlines can require a vaccine. so... its get a shot ( as Qantas already stated) or stay home

They will make it mandatory

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:08 pm wanna bet?
Can the federal government require Americans to get the shot?

A key member of the White House coronavirus task force assured it won’t happen. Dr. Anthony Fauci said he would “definitely not” support a nationwide mandate of the COVID-19 vaccine.

“You don't want to mandate and try and force anyone to take the vaccine. We've never done that. You can mandate for certain groups of people like health workers, but for the general population you cannot,” Fauci said in August.

“We don't want to be mandating from the federal government to the general population. It would be unenforceable and not appropriate.”

Can the federal government mandate the vaccine for the general population?
Almost certainly not, Reiss said. It has limited powers expressly spelled out in the Constitution; the rest belong to the states.

But the federal government has some ways to get people to vaccinate, imposing it as a condition of getting a passport, for example

https://www.today.com/health/will-covid ... population

Sure but, apart from the US, other countries' immigration guidelines and also airlines are free to say that they won't accept unvaccinated travellers.

Vaccination is up to the individual, but I am all for opening up flights and international travel for vaccinated travellers. If you don't like it then don't do it. It's either that or everyone stays at home. Decide for yourself.

CEOCambodiaNews wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:45 pm Qantas boss: Governments 'to insist' on vaccines for flying
By Jonathan Josephs
Business reporter, BBC News
Published 5 hours ago

The boss of Australian airline Qantas has told the BBC that "governments are going to insist" on vaccines for international travellers.

Even if they weren't, he thought the airline should enforce its own policy.

"We have a duty of care to our passengers and to our crew, to say that everybody in that aircraft needs to be safe," Mr Joyce said.

And then pack the passengers in like sardines not social distancing once inside the plane, they gotta make a profit, Hypocrite