Five Decades Of Nana
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Always found it strange why the Khmer was filled with sordid details & yet the Siam would not have an eye blinked!
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Re: Five Decades Of Nana
first visit 1986:La Quenta wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:50 pmWhat made Bangkok more fun back in the day than it has been in recent years?phuketrichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:00 pmsoi's are small numbered streets running off main streets. ie Sukumvit soi 4
The federal and mermaid were also 2 good hotels in the area.
I miss Bangkok,when it was fun....
Not a smart ass post, i'm just curious.
I first visited Bangkok in 2013 and found it pretty fun.
rooms started at 50 Baht and food was 10 Baht per plate, beer and other longdrinks were very cheap too. You could smoke everywhere (even on the planes). A normal italian monthly salary would pay for 3 months of holiday as a backpacker.
it felt much more exotic due to the lack of backpacker and tourist hoardes. I personally think that the Thai's were much more farang friendly in those times.
air quality was much better and less traffic..tuktuk drivers became friends and were not a rip off.
beeing a backpacker felt like beeing part of a community..useful travel information was passed mouth-to mouth.You had to socialze to get to know the best beaches (aka not present in the yellow bible) and how to get there..where to stay...prices.
the magic moment when you had your camera pictures developped and had a first look at the result...sometimes months after taking them. BKK was the cheapest place to have the rolls processed and the pictures printed.
Nancy Chandlers Map of BKK was very useful for BKK, paper maps were the thing of the time.
we were sending postcards to family and friends back home. Stamps costing near to nothing...and all postcards would arrive.
you had to go to the main telefone office to make a very expensive long-distance-call if you wanted to stay in contact with folks back home
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I guess it's all relative depending on your perspective.. I have a few other friends who also reckon BKK is still a good place to go to now.La Quenta wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:50 pmWhat made Bangkok more fun back in the day than it has been in recent years?phuketrichard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 5:00 pmsoi's are small numbered streets running off main streets. ie Sukumvit soi 4
The federal and mermaid were also 2 good hotels in the area.
I miss Bangkok,when it was fun....
Not a smart ass post, i'm just curious.
I first visited Bangkok in 2013 and found it pretty fun.
For me, and given I first went there in 1986, the changes as I see it are:
A lot more expensive as BKK has developed...for hotels, food, drinks, everything
A lot more crowded development incl that skytrain on Sukhumvit which has made the street dark and dingy and claustrophobic
A lot more pollution from the traffic
The people in the area are more jaded than ever before
If you're into the bar scene aka Nana, Soi Cowboy (sadly Buckskin Joe is gone and I think also Washington Square):
A lot more commercial..most of the single front bars that had character are now gone replaced by double front stereo type ones
The girls back then were far less mercenary in terms of service/money
The sexy shows were more common in the bars back then
Things seemed a whole lot more laid back and less full on than now
Hence why a lot of guys skipped BKK when swampy airport opened and went straight to Pattaya instead.
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First in 82 stayed at the Infamous Malaysia hotel, to be fair, in 86 it was 25 baht to the $$
never saw any 50 baht rooms, ( but never looked at fan rooms so maybe there were) even up country
We were paying 250 at the crown air con, hot water, TV, frig in room, all ur friends on the same floor ( the 6th) ganga smoke in the halls, it was like a party day an night, girls coming and going and doors never closed.
NO sky train, The Old Themae, Patpong was the place to be, hang out at superstar, goldfingers and safari
I had a royal enfield back than and used to ride all night with the thai doormen all over the city
People were just much more friendly, girls were not so hard, NO TATS on the women.
It was just fun to hang with ur friends, Many of us were working in various illegal enterprises in Bangkok, HK & Nepal and knew each other
Food very good and inexpensive... Flights were cheap, visas easy to get, police never hassled you, taxi's didn't try and rip ya off
Never lived in Bangkok but was in and out 3-4 days or more every other week, spent most of my down time in Pattaya . Rented my first house in 84 off walking street. Than in 85 moved out to Banglamung where i was paying 4,000 for an ocean front house ( never could keep the windows clean). Pattaya was great, the marine bar/disco at 4 am. The Baby gogo's. 2 hours by taxi from Bangkok
in late 85 left for Phuket but still was in and out of Bangkok often as no direct flights out of phuket to HK or Nepal
ahh memories
never saw any 50 baht rooms, ( but never looked at fan rooms so maybe there were) even up country
We were paying 250 at the crown air con, hot water, TV, frig in room, all ur friends on the same floor ( the 6th) ganga smoke in the halls, it was like a party day an night, girls coming and going and doors never closed.
NO sky train, The Old Themae, Patpong was the place to be, hang out at superstar, goldfingers and safari
I had a royal enfield back than and used to ride all night with the thai doormen all over the city
People were just much more friendly, girls were not so hard, NO TATS on the women.
It was just fun to hang with ur friends, Many of us were working in various illegal enterprises in Bangkok, HK & Nepal and knew each other
Food very good and inexpensive... Flights were cheap, visas easy to get, police never hassled you, taxi's didn't try and rip ya off
Never lived in Bangkok but was in and out 3-4 days or more every other week, spent most of my down time in Pattaya . Rented my first house in 84 off walking street. Than in 85 moved out to Banglamung where i was paying 4,000 for an ocean front house ( never could keep the windows clean). Pattaya was great, the marine bar/disco at 4 am. The Baby gogo's. 2 hours by taxi from Bangkok
in late 85 left for Phuket but still was in and out of Bangkok often as no direct flights out of phuket to HK or Nepal
ahh memories
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Yes, and no bolt-ons, coloured hair, coloured contact lens, nose jobs, smart phones, smoking. Barfine meant all night not ST. There was no price negotiation before you barfined. Girls were trained by the mamasan to do massages (in the bar and out). A lot less pushy for lady drinks.NO TATS on the women
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Thanks for the feedback guys, that helps paint a picture of what it was like.
I think what is really interesting to me is that there seemed to be less activity on the streets in comparison to say Ho Chi Minh City, Phnom Penh etc. I'd done some reading into this and discovered the due to the huge amoutn of malls now, many high street shops have been closed up. It certainly seems to be true upon inspection, even on parts of Sukumvit you can see it.
Also of note is the Governments push against street food.
Tbh, based on my three trips there, Chinatown is probably the most vibrant part of the city of Bangkok to me.
Sukumvit road was alright in parts, but really not overly compelling overall. I was struggling to see what the fuss was about tbh.
I think what is really interesting to me is that there seemed to be less activity on the streets in comparison to say Ho Chi Minh City, Phnom Penh etc. I'd done some reading into this and discovered the due to the huge amoutn of malls now, many high street shops have been closed up. It certainly seems to be true upon inspection, even on parts of Sukumvit you can see it.
Also of note is the Governments push against street food.
Tbh, based on my three trips there, Chinatown is probably the most vibrant part of the city of Bangkok to me.
Sukumvit road was alright in parts, but really not overly compelling overall. I was struggling to see what the fuss was about tbh.
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First/early visits to a place like Bangkok are always going to make a lasting impression, as time marches on and I became familiar with the place the novelty and uniqueness wore off to some extent. The excitement and anticipation of what might lie ahead I used to get in the arrivals hall of Don Muang slowly but surely became less over time, everything was so different back then, 1994 for me, to where I came from.
I wouldn't go as far as saying familiarity breeds contempt but we are discussing a nightlife area and over time you start to recognise the false facade that it is, ( Private Dancer ). which when added to the commercialism/modernisation, increased expense and reduced personal feel all diminished the appeal of the area, experience and Bangkok in general.
I do wonder whether any youngster stepping fresh of the plane in Bangkok these days will experience the same buzz and excitement we did. Through technology they are arriving in a place they are visually familiar with, having watched every YouTube video available, a mass transit ride into town reveals none of the old Thai smiles you read about but a crush of unhappy tired looking people with their heads buried in their mobile phones. As you walk to Nana for the first time you see streets lined with modern concrete, glass and marble high rise facades and the same global shop and restaurant chains as back home. You find yourself a bar stool, the girls don't look up from their mobile phones, eventually you manage to attract their attention and the menu reveals you are going to be paying more for your beer than the local back home, surely not !! Where did it all go wrong ?
Your drink arrives, " What's your name, where you come from ? ". Some things never change however.
I wouldn't go as far as saying familiarity breeds contempt but we are discussing a nightlife area and over time you start to recognise the false facade that it is, ( Private Dancer ). which when added to the commercialism/modernisation, increased expense and reduced personal feel all diminished the appeal of the area, experience and Bangkok in general.
I do wonder whether any youngster stepping fresh of the plane in Bangkok these days will experience the same buzz and excitement we did. Through technology they are arriving in a place they are visually familiar with, having watched every YouTube video available, a mass transit ride into town reveals none of the old Thai smiles you read about but a crush of unhappy tired looking people with their heads buried in their mobile phones. As you walk to Nana for the first time you see streets lined with modern concrete, glass and marble high rise facades and the same global shop and restaurant chains as back home. You find yourself a bar stool, the girls don't look up from their mobile phones, eventually you manage to attract their attention and the menu reveals you are going to be paying more for your beer than the local back home, surely not !! Where did it all go wrong ?
Your drink arrives, " What's your name, where you come from ? ". Some things never change however.
Yes sir, I can boogie, I can boogie, boogie, boogie all night long.
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Agree with all of what you say, I've based myself in Chinatown for the last few years on any visits as its's the closest to the older character and feel streetwise, with Silom Road only a short ride away for choice at night. Did take advantage of the great hotel deals on offer in higher Sukhumvit on my last trip, the few open bars were doing great deals for a change as well in the current climate.La Quenta wrote: ↑Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:28 am Thanks for the feedback guys, that helps paint a picture of what it was like.
I think what is really interesting to me is that there seemed to be less activity on the streets in comparison to say Ho Chi Minh City, Phnom Penh etc. I'd done some reading into this and discovered the due to the huge amoutn of malls now, many high street shops have been closed up. It certainly seems to be true upon inspection, even on parts of Sukumvit you can see it.
Also of note is the Governments push against street food.
Tbh, based on my three trips there, Chinatown is probably the most vibrant part of the city of Bangkok to me.
Sukumvit road was alright in parts, but really not overly compelling overall. I was struggling to see what the fuss was about tbh.
Yes sir, I can boogie, I can boogie, boogie, boogie all night long.
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