Why are there protests against Thailand’s king?

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Germany warns Thai King not to govern from its soil

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Germany warns Thai King not to govern from its soil

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Angela Merkel’s government has warned the King of Thailand not to try to rule his country remotely from Germany, it has emerged.

Thailand is in the grip of anti-government protests that have seen thousands take to the streets and growing calls for the powers of the monarchy to be curbed.

But King Maha Vajiralongkorn spends most of time in Bavaria, where he has rented an entire luxury hotel for his entourage.

“We have made it clear that Thai politics should not be conducted from German soil,” Heiko Maas, the German foreign minister, said this week.

“If there are guests in our country who choose to conduct their state business from our soil we would always want to prevent that.”

The foreign minister’s comments were a rare glimpse of what is said to be the German authorities’ growing frustration with their long-term royal guest.

The 68-year-old Vajiralongkorn, who is also known as Rama X, has long preferred to reside in Germany rather than his own kingdom......
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Re: Why are there protests against Thailand’s king?

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clutchcargo wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:41 pm Unusual, if not 'illegal': Germany says Thai king cannot rule from there

Berlin: Germany's Foreign Minister says Thailand's King Maha Vajiralongkorn should not be conducting politics from the European country, where he spends much of his time.

Heiko Maas responded to a question by a Greens MP at the Bundestag at a time when King Vajiralongkorn's monarchy faces unprecedented calls for reform from protesters in Thailand.

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"We have made it clear that politics concerning Thailand should not be conducted from German soil," Maas told parliament.

"If there are guests in our country that conduct their state business from our soil we would always want to act to counteract that."

Greens parliamentarian Frithjof Schmidt had asked "Why does the German government tolerate this extremely unusual - and in my opinion illegal - behaviour of a foreign head of state conducting politics on German soil?"

Full story https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/unusu ... 563kd.html
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Re: Why are there protests against Thailand’s king?

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This guy will be charged with defamation and lê-se majesty if he ever tries to take a beach holiday in Thailand.
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Re: Why are there protests against Thailand’s king?

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What do you give the man that has everything? According to MacGregor-Marshall this month in particular the uber wealthy Thai establishment get down on their knees and crawl in front of him to hand over shed loads more money to curry favour, hence his extended stay this time. What a strange system.

I did see a picture of the odious self-promoting Thai society darling Madam Pang of Muang Thai Insurance and Thai Port football club doing the very same on his last trip. I view her and her ilk with as much distaste as the shoes they lick.

Oh for a premature demise.
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Hadn't realised he's 68 already.

Who is next in line after His Freakness ?
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popping in wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:44 pm Hadn't realised he's 68 already.

Who is next in line after His Freakness ?
Good question, unfortunately his closest teenage son who gets paraded in public on the odd occasion is experiencing an isolationist upbringing overseas apart from his parents that would suggest he will be far from normal. He also has some form of illness/disability and too look at can only be described as a chip off the old block, if not weirder.

I'd like to see the need for an early unplanned succession just for the entertainment value alone. I doubt the main man permits too much discussion about his premature demise.
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Re: Why are there protests against Thailand’s king?

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Cowshed Cowboy wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:30 am
popping in wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:44 pm Hadn't realised he's 68 already.

Who is next in line after His Freakness ?
Good question, unfortunately his closest teenage son who gets paraded in public on the odd occasion is experiencing an isolationist upbringing overseas apart from his parents that would suggest he will be far from normal. He also has some form of illness/disability and too look at can only be described as a chip off the old block, if not weirder.
Prince Dipangkorn (aged 15) is the "heir presumptive" as the only recognized son of Rama X. However, he is autistic. If the king has another son, he could replace this prince.

Princess Bajrakitiyabha would be a better candidate for monarch. She has a law degree from Cornell U. and has been an ambassador and involved with the UN and women's rights.

Some may say a female monarch is not possible because Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn, the current king's sister who is quite popular, was not chosen instead of him even though The Thai constitution was altered in 1974 to allow for female succession. But that was due to her not being married and having no children, which would have meant a certain dead-end for the dynasty.
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Re: Why are there protests against Thailand’s king?

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Personally, i think this might be the end of the monarchy in Thailand...

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King Maha Vajiralongkorn’s residency becomes flashpoint in student protests in Thailand
Angela Merkel’s government has warned Thailand the Thai king should stop conducting state business from German soil, in an unusual intervention that comes at a time of nationwide student protests in the kingdom.

It has long been an open secret that King Maha Vajiralongkorn, who was crowned Rama X last year, lives for much of the time in Germany. German media have reported that he stays with his household in a hotel in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, in the Bavarian Alps.

Green party politicians in the state of Bavaria, who have questioned the king’s tax status, say they have established that he was living in a villa in Tutzing on Starnberger Lake near Munich at the time of his late father King Bhumibol Adulyadej’s death in 2016.
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Re: Why are there protests against Thailand’s king?

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phuketrichard wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:19 pm
Personally, i think this might be the end of the monarchy in Thailand...
The protesters have repeatedly stated that they seek reform of the monarchy rather than abolishment.

However, you may be right since Princess Bajrakitiyabha is also unmarried and childless at age 41, and Princess Sirivannavari is the same at age 33.

Unless they start a brand new dynasty, there may not be any one left to take care of the $29 billion. Perhaps the Shinawats could take over?
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Re: Why are there protests against Thailand’s king?

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more and more are questioning, more and more info seeps out.
Theres a lot of pissed off people out there..and now that the genie has gotten out... it wont ever be put back in.

$$29 BN?? try around $$40!!!

The king’s money: Thailand divided over the $40bn question
The role and wealth of the Germany-based king is under unprecedented scrutiny amid national protests

For such a big change it was a very small announcement. An unscheduled communiqué published on its website on Saturday June 16 2018 revealed that Thailand’s Crown Property Bureau had transferred its entire portfolio — royal assets worth tens of billions of dollars held for more than 80 years on behalf of the monarchy and the nation — into the hands of the new King Maha Vajiralongkorn.

“All Crown Property assets are to be transferred and revert to the ownership of His Majesty so that they may be administered and managed at His Majesty’s discretion,” the CPB said, clarifying the details of a crown property law passed the previous year. It added that the assets would “now be held in the name of His Majesty” and be subject to tax.
It was an extraordinary move. Thailand’s royal wealth portfolio is estimated to be worth more than $40bn
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Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit, who led Future Forward before the party was dissolved, says royal wealth is 'taxpayers’ money, it has to be transparent.' © Mladen Antonov/AFP via Getty

But two years later, amid a wave of nationwide protests, Thais are breaking their silence over the 68-year-old king’s wealth and the generous public budgets enjoyed by royal institutions. Student protesters are asking why public funds are being handed to a king who spends more time in Germany than he does in Thailand — an issue most Thai media avoid mentioning. A 10-point manifesto demanding reforms to the monarchy calls for a cut in the royal budget “in keeping with the country’s economic situation” — a nod to the coronavirus pandemic — as well as an end to royal charity projects, which receive taxpayer funds, and the separation of the king’s personal wealth from crown assets.

“It’s the biggest issue of all in Thailand,” says Parit “Penguin” Chiwarak, one of the most radical of the student protesters in pressing for royal reforms. “The royal institution can interfere in politics because they have enough money.

“If we don’t say it now, when are we going to say it?”

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Anon Nampa, a senior protest leader, calls the royal budget 'excessive' and says it has been 'unnecessarily increased'

https://next-media-api.ft.com/rendition ... 80x720.mp4
https://www.ft.com/content/251d8aea-693 ... f0176e0f8f
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