keeping_it_riel wrote:
He was spoken to by other K440 forum mods and agreed to stop doing this, as did Gen Z.

Then yesterday, I got complaints from three different K440 forum members saying they'd had spam emails from Gen Z who'd created yet another non posting a/c here and had spammed dozens and dozens of members here with a PM attacking this site and enticing them to his site. This is after he'd agreed not to do this. Clearly, therefore, Gen Z is a liar and is not to be trusted.

Next, there its how they are marketing and selling ads. When K440 wanted advertisers, we ignored what our competitors were doing and found our own advertisers. This was obviously far too much work for Gen Z who instead simply contacted all K440 advertisers offering them a free ad.

Then an interesting thing happened. A few days later, those advertisers who declined got a second email.

Hello.

Your company currently advertises on a sleazy website called Khmer440.com. That site promotes sex tourism in Cambodia and promotes other sponsors such as Cavern Pub, which is a "hostess bar" ( a place that provides prostitutes to it's male customers).

Please STOP your advertising with Khmer440.com because it is a sleazy website that portrays Camboida in a negative way. Khmer440.com is NOT the type of website a company like XXXXXX should ever be affiliated with.

Thank you.

I'm posting this because those of you happily posting on CEO should be fully aware of their business ethics.

Thank you, KiR, for FINALLY allowing us to be discussed on K440!

Now, I'm NOT calling you a liar, because we haven't communicated directly since CEO started, but I promise that you're wrong about some of this.

For starters, I'll give you $1,000,000 if you can show where "I" said I would stop PMing people on K440, or even where The Dragon said "I" would stop. Seriously.

That never happened. Fact.

I've been asked a few times to stop completely stop sending PM's on K440, and I've been very verbal in stating I have no loyalty to K440 now that I've been banned and will NOT promise that.

Again, I would love to see what you are basing it on, but you're plain wrong. To make accusations like that, I want proof. You can't possibly have any because it doesn't exist.

And about approaching K440 sponsors: I'm an honest man, and "technically" you're right on one account. I feel you try to paint a different picture though.

We have been offering our friends around town free ad banners.

I happen to have A LOT of Facebook friends, and I sent a message to some of them telling them about our site and that we'd give them a free ad. One of them HAPPENED to be a sponsor on K440. That was not intentional, I promise.

And even before I sent that message to my friends, one of YOUR sponsors approached me! ! He offered us $$$ to put up his ad BUT we had to block his competition from even being mentioned on CEO (LoL, sounds very fitting for a sponsorship deal with K440), but we turned it down.

You might have noticed by now that we are AGAINST censorship, and we will not be giving anyone that advertises with us immunity from criticism or block their competitors from even being mentioned.

^ Reminds me of the "Best Roast in Phnom Penh" article changed to "Best Value Roast in Phnom Penh", then finally changed to "Review of a Roast in Phnom Penh," LoL, and it was a review that you asked your writer to do, presumably paid, LoL!



And regards to sending emails to your sponsors like, "Cavern Pub, which is a "hostess bar" ( a place that provides prostitutes to it's male customers)...."

I can absolutely promise you that neither the Dragon nor I had ANYTHING to do with that! 100%.

First of all, I love The Cavern! I go there often!

Also, we have at least one hostess bar that has an ad on our site.

Hell, I was there last night, LoL!

We have no problems with hostess bars at all. We are all adults here, and don't see what the issue is.

So, I can see why we might be the first people you would naturally assume would be stirring up shit with your advertisers, but I can promise you that you're wrong about this one too.

Also, you have such few advertisers, I can promise you we have no intent whatsoever to contact those select few businesses or anything like that.



I also find it ironic you try to label us a warmongering site through your Twitter accounts while you host ads like this on K440:



Hassle free services? What's that? LoL.

Again, we have no problem with hostess bars, so it's silly to think we would send a message to people condemning them (also silly for you to condemn us of anything like that while you have ads like that up).

So, I'm sorry this hasn't been very smooth for you, but you are the one that has cut me off from all communication.

Good luck with your site, and always feel free to to contact me directly in order to avoid wrong information from being spread around again in the future.



P.S. To whoever was sending those emails to K440's sponsors: Please stop. While I can appreciate your efforts if your intent was to help us, but it's not helping at all. In fact, it's making things things more difficult. If you really want to help us, just tell your friends to come check us out themselves! Thanks!



P.P.S. KiR, you are more than welcome to come here and reply freely.

Also, if anyone feels brave, feel free to post this message over there. It might not stay up, but it's worth a try. Maybe he'll be changing his ways. Thanks.

Milord wrote:

Now that it's in the open, things should settle down.

Amen.

It was only a matter of time until K440 had to address us. We're at that stage. Part of the plan.

Censorship meant he thought we "might" pose a threat. Turning around and realizing he HAD to address us is proof that he reassessed the situation and realized the threat is real and can no longer be ignored.

The back and forth bickering will soon die down.



I really hope he attempts to post some evidence of the misinformation he's spreading.

It sounds very slanderous to accuse me of promising to stop doing something I never promised to stop, and then calling me a flat out liar.

But to be fair, I honestly think KiR's been much more civil than I would have thought.

I think it's only human nature to go through some emotional steps when someone poses as a real threat to your business after 10+ years of success

Whether CEO succeeded or not, we've already been a huge thorn in his site.