Owner of Good Times Bar in Phnom Penh Offers $50 to Anyone Who Collects Chris Freeman's Outstanding Bar Tab
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Re: Owner of Good Times Bar in Phnom Penh Offers $50 to Anyone Who Collects Chris Freeman's Outstanding Bar Tab
As a patron of bars I like the idea that you can just sit and casually while away an evening with a couple of good friends and then tally up the check and split it at the end. I went to a bar in TTP where the guy kept asking me to pay (i was alone waiting for a buddy) I said here take this $5 and just keep them pouring "oh would you like a tab?"shnoukieBRO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:07 pm The TAB idea is daft and for good reasons not implemented in many Countries.
Any place that permits long tabs to run like this is taking stupid risks.
Their hope is that the punter will spend more freely and pay up later. But this is ideal thinking and tourists doing a runner or being overcharged is common knowledge. They should know better!
There have been occasions I could count on one hand over the years (particularly before ABA and lots of ATMS were about) where I was about to leave having reached the end of what I had brought with me only to be persuaded by the owner (who was a good friend) to stay and I was good for it. I always went by the next day and paid up. These days most folks have ABA or card machines so you can transfer it etc if you have run out of what you took with you (I still like to think of that as an indicator I should go home!), I rarely drink alone so would borrow it temporarily off a friend if I needed to e.g. nearest ATM out of action. Allowing anyone to rack up a debt past 1-2 days is irresponsible.
Re: Owner of Good Times Bar in Phnom Penh Offers $50 to Anyone Who Collects Chris Freeman's Outstanding Bar Tab
You are correct, reading again it sounds completely made up about the bartender. In the OP the messages pursuing payment are from the bar owner. Hey Chris! +12.5! And 2 days later - Hey Chris! +13!angkorjohn2 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:37 pmAs I just outlined - she has displayed his bills in the OP photos - it started in March thru May. Is it suggested she had no knowledge of this? that she didn't see these bills racking up? that she didn't check her daily income and expenditure for three months? that the barman was recording all of this yet hiding it from his boss before the big reveal? I've heard some strange tales in my time from bar owner friends but that would be a first.
Lets assume for fantasy's sake that the sacked bartender gave him a big line of credit in March, Chloe saw it, but not until April and rebuked the bartender and said no more. the next week she sees he has continued to let Chris drink their and extend his credit (presuming that not once when Chris drank there was she there to see it or question it), she gives him a final warning yet still, for unknown reasons and ones that in no obvious way benefit the bartender, he kept doing it, she didn't keep on checking up on a daily basis and was oblivious that Chris was still drinking there on extended credit until May. Yep sure, I believe that, it was all a dastardly plan by this barman
So right there the owner knew about it and it was still happening. What exactly did the bartender do wrong?
I also didn't notice before, he owed over $800 at one point and owes half of that now.
Re: Owner of Good Times Bar in Phnom Penh Offers $50 to Anyone Who Collects Chris Freeman's Outstanding Bar Tab
He can simply say sorry I don't know you and don't owe you anything. If ever I patronise your bar, I fully paid everything so what can the owner do?
Any contract or iou to prove?
Any contract or iou to prove?
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Re: Owner of Good Times Bar in Phnom Penh Offers $50 to Anyone Who Collects Chris Freeman's Outstanding Bar Tab
GMJS-CEO wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:27 pmYou are correct, reading again it sounds completely made up about the bartender. In the OP the messages pursuing payment are from the bar owner. Hey Chris! +12.5! And 2 days later - Hey Chris! +13!angkorjohn2 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:37 pmAs I just outlined - she has displayed his bills in the OP photos - it started in March thru May. Is it suggested she had no knowledge of this? that she didn't see these bills racking up? that she didn't check her daily income and expenditure for three months? that the barman was recording all of this yet hiding it from his boss before the big reveal? I've heard some strange tales in my time from bar owner friends but that would be a first.
Lets assume for fantasy's sake that the sacked bartender gave him a big line of credit in March, Chloe saw it, but not until April and rebuked the bartender and said no more. the next week she sees he has continued to let Chris drink their and extend his credit (presuming that not once when Chris drank there was she there to see it or question it), she gives him a final warning yet still, for unknown reasons and ones that in no obvious way benefit the bartender, he kept doing it, she didn't keep on checking up on a daily basis and was oblivious that Chris was still drinking there on extended credit until May. Yep sure, I believe that, it was all a dastardly plan by this barman
So right there the owner knew about it and it was still happening. What exactly did the bartender do wrong?
I also didn't notice before, he owed over $800 at one point and owes half of that now.
exactly, and then her friend suggests it was the barmans fault and I paraphrase "yes that's why we sacked him of course it was him.....it was nothing to do with my inability to run my business"
and how anyone racks up $800 unpaid is beyond me, unless of course you are in Jah Steu's establishments and ringing the bell all night.
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Re: Owner of Good Times Bar in Phnom Penh Offers $50 to Anyone Who Collects Chris Freeman's Outstanding Bar Tab
nope quite correct, he was bad for taking advantage of the goodwill but he could just deny it, how many times do we see accusations of Khmer run bars "padding bills" that the person didn't owe (but probably did). The police don't get involved, you might get a stilleto to the head or some desperate guy assault you for the $50 bounty but I'd say you were good.
I always remember one guy at a bar I wont name went to pay his $12 bill with $100 probably knowing they wouldn't have the change, he said he would go to change it, took maybe 5 days before he came back and was asked for the money straight away which he paid. maybe 2 weeks later the guy passed away, only 52 years old, sad really. Turned out he had about 8 $100+ outstanding bills in various establishments, they weren't going to see that again
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Not to mention its far better to wait till they are too drunk toargue. I have heard that some unscrupulous bar owners even add on drinks the customer never ordered. Shocking if truejah steu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:36 amUnless you force every single customer to pay for each single drink before he drinks it, there will be some temporary credit involved.simon43 wrote:It is totally beyond my understanding why anyone running a bar or restaurant allows any customer to run up a tab. Weird way of running a business!
Sometimes this can build up very quickly. In our bars some customers rack up a bills of $200-300 in a few hours of drinking with the girls. One Japanese guy spent $1,800 recently in a long evening of drinking Chivas 18-years and buying hundreds of ladydrinks.
It’s not feasible to demand cash from them for every single drink they order.
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Re: Owner of Good Times Bar in Phnom Penh Offers $50 to Anyone Who Collects Chris Freeman's Outstanding Bar Tab
Who doesn't have $2 for 4 beers and needs to run up a tab? I wouldn't trust a bar man not to add a few to the tab.
I'm standing up, so I must be straight.
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Re: Owner of Good Times Bar in Phnom Penh Offers $50 to Anyone Who Collects Chris Freeman's Outstanding Bar Tab
What a quaint idea, not paying for drinks. Terrible business practice by the owner. Not everyone carries cash but don’t you have the Square App in Cambodia. A card reader only costs $50 and you pay with a debit or credit card. It’s simple.
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Re: Owner of Good Times Bar in Phnom Penh Offers $50 to Anyone Who Collects Chris Freeman's Outstanding Bar Tab
good times is also literally opposite an ATM machine also round the corner from another on 172 and maybe 30 metres from one by the kiwi mart on 154willyhilly wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:51 am What a quaint idea, not paying for drinks. Terrible business practice by the owner. Not everyone carries cash but don’t you have the Square App in Cambodia. A card reader only costs $50 and you pay with a debit or credit card. It’s simple.
Re: Owner of Good Times Bar in Phnom Penh Offers $50 to Anyone Who Collects Chris Freeman's Outstanding Bar Tab
Now the owner of Good Times Bar is calling out her barman/ex-boyfriend who let Freeman run up the tab.
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