The goal of a virus is to survive and multiply. Being more virulent (more deadly), is counter to this goal.

Anyways, there is a new strain. Has a spiky part to it. Supposedly this new part is what’s increasing the infection rate among the younger population. Better at spreading, less efficient at quickly killing. But still good at making people sick enough to go to the hospital and intensive care units.

More than likely all the virus will convert to this new strain.

It helps that the younger population tend pull out all the stops to help the virus spread.

This might challenge some who believe in the concept of 'herd immunity'..

Coronavirus herd immunity may be 'unachievable' after study suggests antibodies disappear after weeks in some people

A major new study in one of Europe’s worst affected countries for the coronavirus finds no evidence of widespread immunity to the virus developing. “Immunity can be incomplete, it can be transitory, it can last for just a short time and then disappear,” Raquel Yotti, the director of Spain’s Carlos III Health Institute, said. Another scientist involved said: “In light of these findings, any proposed approach to achieve herd immunity through natural infection is not only highly unethical, but also unachievable.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coro ... ain-2020-7

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:35 pm This might challenge some who believe in the concept of 'herd immunity'..

Coronavirus herd immunity may be 'unachievable' after study suggests antibodies disappear after weeks in some people

A major new study in one of Europe’s worst affected countries for the coronavirus finds no evidence of widespread immunity to the virus developing. “Immunity can be incomplete, it can be transitory, it can last for just a short time and then disappear,” Raquel Yotti, the director of Spain’s Carlos III Health Institute, said. Another scientist involved said: “In light of these findings, any proposed approach to achieve herd immunity through natural infection is not only highly unethical, but also unachievable.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coro ... ain-2020-7

That doesn't bode well for a vaccine either, the purpose of which is to create antibodies in preparation of exposure to the real thing. If they disappear in a short period you'd need to be getting shots every 3 months.

I think we may be doomed.

Doc67 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:19 pm

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 6:35 pm This might challenge some who believe in the concept of 'herd immunity'..

Coronavirus herd immunity may be 'unachievable' after study suggests antibodies disappear after weeks in some people

A major new study in one of Europe’s worst affected countries for the coronavirus finds no evidence of widespread immunity to the virus developing. “Immunity can be incomplete, it can be transitory, it can last for just a short time and then disappear,” Raquel Yotti, the director of Spain’s Carlos III Health Institute, said. Another scientist involved said: “In light of these findings, any proposed approach to achieve herd immunity through natural infection is not only highly unethical, but also unachievable.”

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/coro ... ain-2020-7

That doesn't bode well for a vaccine either, the purpose of which is to create antibodies in preparation of exposure to the real thing. If they disappear in a short period you'd need to be getting shots every 3 months.

I think we may be doomed.

This is probably why some are saying there may never be an effective vaccine. As is the case with HIV and Dengue for example.

Then again, the world is marshalling all it's resources like never before so one can nevertheless be positive. It's also possible that better viral treatments wil be developed..even without a vaccine.

I have watched a lot of Dr. John Campbell's videos over the last two months. They are thorough, educational, using high quality study sources and based on his experience working in a British hospital "A and E", which means "accident and emergency" medicine. He also has a PhD.

He's done numerous videos on the growing positive reports on the effects of good Vitamin D levels. In summary, people with INsufficient Vitamin D levels are more prone to respiratory tract infection, and 7 times more likely to die. People with DEficiency (more severe) are 10 times more likely likely to die. He supplies all the study and supplementary links in his YouTube posts.

Also notes standard science that dark skin people tend to have very low Vit D, brown skin people somewhat lower Vit D levels and white skin people tend to but don't always have decent levels because of the fact we hibernate in winter and get little to no sun. Hence the need to take vitamin D supplements running a minimum 25 to 50 micrograms (1000 to 2000 IUs).

This vid below sums up all the current knowledge and runs 31 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyMFsLFAE5o&t=495s

with 60,000+ cases /day now on Tuesday in the states, i guess having a US passport, once things open, will no longer be as worthwhile as it was before LOL