clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 10:10 pm

frizzie77 wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 10:37 pm
I really have to restrain myself from making comments that would get me an immediate ban.

So, just this: why in the world would we support a widow of a slain Westerner, and not, say, any other Cambodian widow with a slain husband in this country?
Because he's a Westerner?
Because she's a .... (restraining myself here)?

frizzie77 wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 10:37 pm

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 10:10 pm

I really have to restrain myself from making comments that would get me an immediate ban.

So, just this: why in the world would we support a widow of a slain Westerner, and not, say, any other Cambodian widow with a slain husband in this country?
Because he's a Westerner?
Because she's a .... (restraining myself here)?

And the part "he always avoided arguments" is in this case at least questionable, I'd say.

Chad Sexington wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 8:36 pm

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 10:08 am

orussey98 wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 8:52 am

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 7:34 am wow
amazing how 2 forums and a news site (the one we are not allowed to name) report the same incident so different,

From the other side and the news site;
The Swiss guy's dog got into it with a Cambodian guy's dog. The Swiss guy hit the Cambodian guy's dog with a baton/stick and the Cambodian guy punched him in the jaw once and he hit his head on the ground and died a few days later.

The Cambodian guy opened a philly steak house in Russian market area in PP

MY take,
If someone hit my dog, i'd do the exact same thing
its to bad he hit his head and died, but now the Cambodian guy who was trying to turn is life around has to pay...
(involuntary manslaughter, accidental death?)


The truth is out there

Two dogs fight, you choose to hit the man. Interesting.
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The deportees have only supporters within the western liberal people here.

Thuch Sek commited a crime here as he did in the USA.

He didn't succeed going out of his loop.

He is a threat for people and society and will go back in prison where apparently he belongs.

you left out the part that the Swiss guy HIT the Cambodian guys dog first>
like i said, you hit my dog with a stick or whatever, i'm coming at you.

Not trying to take sides here, more a case of playing devils advocate, some things to consider?
The dogs were not fighting, the Swiss couple said the dog was being friendly, the Swiss guy, worried the dogs “might” start fighting decides to set about the Khmer guys dog with a stick.
Dog lovers can be very protective of their animals, as seems to be the case with both parties here, the Khmer guy has felt strongly enough about his dog being beaten (provocation?) that he has confronted the Swiss guy and that subsequently lashed out (not a sustained assault) at the Swiss guy.
It would appear that the victim “striking his head on a rock” after falling over (admittedly after being struck by the Khmer guy) caused the fatal injury, I’m no expert, but I don’t believe that anyone can throw a punch with the certainty that the recipient of that punch will fall in a certain way/ direction that will guarantee causing death (Your thoughts on this point Jamie Lambo?)
How many members have ever thrown a punch in self defense or anger? (I suspect quite a few will have at one time or another) Those who have can consider themselves fortunate that nobody died as a result, because the reality is that that one punch could end in the same result as in this case.
It cannot be classed as murder (manslaughter maybe) as there would appear to be no evidence the Khmer guy intended to kill the victim.
As for automatically assuming the guys guilt based on how he looks, tattoos, assuming he’s on roids (he looks more to have the build of someone who’s enjoyed an American lifestyle/diet than a steroid fueled body builder) judging a book by its cover is not a strong prosecution strategy.
The age difference would appear to be a major factor as far as public opinion of this tragedy goes, I suspect that if not for that age difference, plenty of folk may be thinking “Karma, serves him right for beating a dog for no reason” (how many people have thought/said “ what they would do to the perpetrators of animal cruelty if they could get their hands on them”? plenty I suspect)

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