possible benefits of pandemic
Re: possible benefits of pandemic
Heaps of bargains to be had lately from FB buy-n-sell groups by expats panicking, selling up to return home, and out of work TEFL'ers.
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic
Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:54 pmDid you stay at home and away from sick people in 2009?Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:49 pm Still not even 10% of deaths caused by swine flu in 2009, and no lock down then...
This shit is ridiculous.
*I will add that I'm in week two of staying at home and away from sick people and a bit cranky.
If not, maybe start calling yourself ridiculous?
In 2009, I was between London and S.E.A. I heard about swine flu, but there was hardly any worry in the air. I think perhaps the biggest concession to its existence was a thermal scanner at pochentong.
There was no lock down, isolation or distancing then.
I'm doing it now, less because I believe in it, but because of the perceptions of those I know.
Point is, what is the key difference between now and what was (at this stage) a far more dangerous influenza?
Do you know?
Re: possible benefits of pandemic
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Point is, what is the key difference between now and what was (at this stage) a far more dangerous influenza?
Do you know?
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My understanding is that this novel coronavirus has already killed more people in the UK than swine flu did in 2009. NHS figures online say that 138 people died from Swine flu in England. We are only just getting started with covid-19 here and we’re already above 200 in England.
Swine flu was considered to have a high mortality rate when it was first detected, but that was likely due to the number of mild cases that went unnoticed. In the end the NHS predicts a mortality rate of 0.026% which is very low. If we look at Germany and South Korea where mass testing for covid-19 has taken place, we probably see more reliable estimates (although still high) of 0.4-0.6%.
What they are finding is that patients that end up in a critical state in hospital are suffering from severe pneumonia and need intensive care. The biggest difficulty most nations seem to be facing is that they just can’t cope with the number of patients who will need ventilators and other life saving equipment, meaning the mortality rate ends up much higher due to inadequate care.
I wouldn’t say covid-19 is going to cause an apocalypse, but initial evidence shows it’s certainly something to take seriously.
Point is, what is the key difference between now and what was (at this stage) a far more dangerous influenza?
Do you know?
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My understanding is that this novel coronavirus has already killed more people in the UK than swine flu did in 2009. NHS figures online say that 138 people died from Swine flu in England. We are only just getting started with covid-19 here and we’re already above 200 in England.
Swine flu was considered to have a high mortality rate when it was first detected, but that was likely due to the number of mild cases that went unnoticed. In the end the NHS predicts a mortality rate of 0.026% which is very low. If we look at Germany and South Korea where mass testing for covid-19 has taken place, we probably see more reliable estimates (although still high) of 0.4-0.6%.
What they are finding is that patients that end up in a critical state in hospital are suffering from severe pneumonia and need intensive care. The biggest difficulty most nations seem to be facing is that they just can’t cope with the number of patients who will need ventilators and other life saving equipment, meaning the mortality rate ends up much higher due to inadequate care.
I wouldn’t say covid-19 is going to cause an apocalypse, but initial evidence shows it’s certainly something to take seriously.
Re: possible benefits of pandemic
No, I don’t know, but it seems a bit silly to me to call the measures ‘ridiculous’ while at the same time self imposing those measures.Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:29 pmKammekor wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:54 pmDid you stay at home and away from sick people in 2009?Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:49 pm Still not even 10% of deaths caused by swine flu in 2009, and no lock down then...
This shit is ridiculous.
*I will add that I'm in week two of staying at home and away from sick people and a bit cranky.
If not, maybe start calling yourself ridiculous?
In 2009, I was between London and S.E.A. I heard about swine flu, but there was hardly any worry in the air. I think perhaps the biggest concession to its existence was a thermal scanner at pochentong.
There was no lock down, isolation or distancing then.
I'm doing it now, less because I believe in it, but because of the perceptions of those I know.
Point is, what is the key difference between now and what was (at this stage) a far more dangerous influenza?
Do you know?
If the measures are ridiculous, live by it and just do as you always did I would say.
For me, the full scale of this pandemic for Cambodia is still not clear
. For the USA, Europe and other areas with moderate climates this virus seems a perfect storm, going undetected and being underestimated by most countries.
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic
Kammekor wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:50 pmNo, I don’t know, but it seems a bit silly to me to call the measures ‘ridiculous’ while at the same time self imposing those measures.Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:29 pmKammekor wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:54 pmDid you stay at home and away from sick people in 2009?Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:49 pm Still not even 10% of deaths caused by swine flu in 2009, and no lock down then...
This shit is ridiculous.
*I will add that I'm in week two of staying at home and away from sick people and a bit cranky.
If not, maybe start calling yourself ridiculous?
In 2009, I was between London and S.E.A. I heard about swine flu, but there was hardly any worry in the air. I think perhaps the biggest concession to its existence was a thermal scanner at pochentong.
There was no lock down, isolation or distancing then.
I'm doing it now, less because I believe in it, but because of the perceptions of those I know.
Point is, what is the key difference between now and what was (at this stage) a far more dangerous influenza?
Do you know?
If the measures are ridiculous, live by it and just do as you always did I would say.
For me, the full scale of this pandemic for Cambodia is still not clear
. For the USA, Europe and other areas with moderate climates this virus seems a perfect storm, going undetected and being underestimated by most countries.
Well, my landlord and her family live next to us, their grandkid goes to school with my kids. They have 4 people between 70 and 80 in their house. So they got a little worried because I usually go outside after 10pm most nights.
As a courtesy, I'm staying in and away from everyone for 2 weeks. 6 days left after this, hopefully.
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic
Benefits? You might be able to tell your grandchildren how you survived the pandemic and global meltdown of 2020. Unfortunately your grandchildren will probably look like this:
Silence, exile, and cunning.
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic
Fed announces unlimited bond purchases in unprecedented move
in the extreme, the global financial-capitalism system could collapse
that sounds bad, and it surely would be for a few years
but then we could rebuild the economy on more rational and equitable principles
no, definitely not old-school socialism, or darwinism, or neo-feudalism again
something new
in the extreme, the global financial-capitalism system could collapse
that sounds bad, and it surely would be for a few years
but then we could rebuild the economy on more rational and equitable principles
no, definitely not old-school socialism, or darwinism, or neo-feudalism again
something new
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic
These days, I think one problem is that too many kids are already like this. (I’ve heard some interesting tales of local gangs of kids deliberately getting in peoples faces, and doing EXACTLY the opposite of taking care, respecting other people, being cautious- in the UK)John Bingham wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:34 pm Benefits? You might be able to tell your grandchildren how you survived the pandemic and global meltdown of 2020. Unfortunately your grandchildren will probably look like this:
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