Kammekor wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:08 am Yeah, now I clearly remember the hospitals in Milan shouting out for extra ventilators last year and announcing the collapse of their health care system.

Because they now rush all diagnosed with corona to the hospital. If they did the same with flu patients, you’d hear of the same collapse of health care system.

hunter8 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:13 am

Kammekor wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:08 am Yeah, now I clearly remember the hospitals in Milan shouting out for extra ventilators last year and announcing the collapse of their health care system.

Because they now rush all diagnosed with corona to the hospital. If they did the same with flu patients, you’d hear of the same collapse of health care system.

Last year 600 people (in a word with originally 50 beds) were ventilated in Milan too, because of the flu?

Check the video on page 133 from an Italian specialist, saying they will start 'triaging' patients because of lack of resources. Triaging is a sweet word, coming from the Napoleonic wars. It basically means selecting which one you will (try to) save and which ones you will leave (to die).

Can't remember panicking reports like that from last year's flu season.

Kammekor wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:21 am

hunter8 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:13 am

Kammekor wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:08 am Yeah, now I clearly remember the hospitals in Milan shouting out for extra ventilators last year and announcing the collapse of their health care system.

Because they now rush all diagnosed with corona to the hospital. If they did the same with flu patients, you’d hear of the same collapse of health care system.

Last year 600 people (in a word with originally 50 beds) were ventilated in Milan too, because of the flu?

Check the video on page 133 from an Italian specialist, saying they will start 'triaging' patients because of lack of resources. Triaging is a sweet word, coming from the Napoleonic wars. It basically means selecting which one you will (try to) save and which ones you will leave (to die).

Can't remember panicking reports like that from last year's flu season.

Please read the official numbers from CDC and WHO of hospitalizations and deaths from flu I posted above. Suddenly most people stopped understanding basic math.

Kammekor wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:21 am Can't remember panicking reports like that from last year's flu season.

Indeed, you are exactly pointing out what I'm saying: then there was no panic. Now there is, but I still fail to understand why.

frizzie77 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:32 am

Kammekor wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:21 am Can't remember panicking reports like that from last year's flu season.

Indeed, you are exactly pointing out what I'm saying: then there was no panic. Now there is, but I still fail to understand why.

Panic doesn't make people need ventilators.

Last year they coped with 50 ventilators in Milan for all kinds of diseases, including the flu. Now they are using 600 just for COVID-19 and they are running short of resources. That's not caused by panic.

laurel and hardy?

typical seasonal flu infects around 10% of the population
with no immunity covid-19 could be worse
if even 0.5% of those need ventilators (and so far it looks more like 10%), we have a problem

i don't at all agree with shutting down entire countries
but this really can't be dismissed

Well, here we are... End game, we all knew it was coming... They warned us but we didn't listen. It's been nice knowing you my fellow brethren, good luck and godspeed. JUDGEDREDD over and out.

Pretty decent summation for plebs.

JUDGEDREDD wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:07 am Well, here we are... End game, we all knew it was coming... They warned us but we didn't listen. It's been nice knowing you my fellow brethren, good luck and godspeed. JUDGEDREDD over and out.

Just remember me in your will,,,, mate, buddy , best friend. Remember I would do the same for you.

It's interesting how some people keep saying "the flu kills xx,xxx people per year so corona is no big deal" as if the corona virus has had it's go and isn't going to continue killing thousands(likely tens-hundreds of thousands) for the rest of the year. The flu had a go at the entire worlds population, and you're comparing the number from an entire year to the new virus, which hasn't reached a Lot of the world yet, and is in it's very early days. No shit the flu has killed more people. Talk to me in nine months. I Bet you it gets a few more people between now and then...