Kammekor wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:56 pm In my country he would go to jail. They would expect a trained and armed navy officer to disarm to petty thieves without the need to kill them. A simple shot in the leg would have done, or even in the knee if he wanted more (revenge).

Kammekor wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:56 pm In my country he would go to jail. They would expect a trained and armed navy officer to disarm to petty thieves without the need to kill them. A simple shot in the leg would have done, or even in the knee if he wanted more (revenge).

Anthony's Weiner wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:18 pm 12 am. midnight in a pitched black house and I hear 2 men inside my home while my wife is in bed beside me asleep. I suppose I could politely ask them to leave, wait to see if they are armed, ask them if they only want my valuables, confront them and shoot them in the lag or put a stop to it before I find out if their intention is to rob me, kill me, rape my wife and then kill her. I am a pretty liberal-leaning guy. Break into my house at midnight and I see nothing wrong with f#cking you up. How man stories of children raped and murdered, old people chopped up with axes etc have I read on this site? If you thieve in the daylight when no one is home you are a nasty piece of shit sneak thief if you break into occupied homes at midnight, you are gambling with your life or the life of the occupant. sorry no pity for the dead guy, not cause he is Chinese but because I don t know if he was just a thief, a rapist thief or a rapist murdering thief. I do know he won t do it again though.

Brody wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:22 pm Oh come on. We don't know any of the circumstances surrounding the burglary.

Brody wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:22 pm He was outnumbered and who's to say that one or both of the burglars didn't lunge at him with some kind of weapon or blunt object like a crowbar or something?

Kammekor wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:18 pm

Brody wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:22 pm who's to say that one or both of the burglars didn't lunge at him with some kind of weapon or blunt object like a crowbar or something?

So which is true?

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:59 pm I know what you are saying Ant.
I just wish that same attitude was held so absolutely against those rich powerful thieving killing bastards who steal public and private property in front of everybody's eyes every day, - killing by pollution, selling bad drugs legally, reckless warfare, corruption by business nobles etc etc etc, All over the world in plain sight everyday.
Just shoot em'. (nb, i'm making a point here, not to be taken literally)

But you don't generally get that from most fiercely vigilant household protectors. They only thing they think is worth shooting for is their own personal private property. Some/many/most?? That's what i see anyway.
Also, this argument pre-supposes equal gun owning rights for (nearly) everybody, if it is to be just.
Very very few people think that would be a good idea for Cambodia - certainly not the PM and the vast majority of the people.
Thank god.

Once again - i can understand your point and i do give it some validity - but i think the rule of law is the best way forward for cambodia despite the challenges. And you can't be too selective about that.

Ps - there is such a thing as measured, appropriate response to this situation especially if you are holding the guns - in most situations. Shooting to kill burglars automatically is against the law almost everywhere.
That's the problem, some gun owners go straight to execution. Not legal, not necessary and quite frankly - barbaric. In the eyes of most of civilisation anyway.