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Drifter · Post by **Drifter** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:45 pm

OrangeDragon wrote:the very concept that "woman's nature" has some meaning rather than individual choices makes it misogynistic. it's like saying something about blacks because of their "black nature", or jews because of their "jew nature", and so on...

its not your criticism of feminism, i'd join you in that as i think the activist side of it is loaded with just as much misandry as there is misogyny it purports to fight against.

its your attacking of women in general, to such a fanatic extreme that you tried desperately to insist a well known male poster is a female simply because they disagreed with you... that's just sad.

that's ok, but ultimately it's all a matter of accepting opposing views, i've written already where i stand regarding this topic, if people don't like it there's nothing i can do, i'm not coming here to sell anything or to recruite supporters.

and i don't care about being called a misogynist in a society where any criticism to feminism is labeled as such.

OrangeDragon · Post by **OrangeDragon** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:12 pm

Drifter wrote:
OrangeDragon wrote:the very concept that "woman's nature" has some meaning rather than individual choices makes it misogynistic. it's like saying something about blacks because of their "black nature", or jews because of their "jew nature", and so on...

its not your criticism of feminism, i'd join you in that as i think the activist side of it is loaded with just as much misandry as there is misogyny it purports to fight against.

its your attacking of women in general, to such a fanatic extreme that you tried desperately to insist a well known male poster is a female simply because they disagreed with you... that's just sad.
and i don't care about being called a misogynist in a society where any criticism to feminism is labeled as such.

you clearly didn't even read the post you quoted...

UKJ · Post by **UKJ** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:59 pm

OrangeDragon wrote:the very concept that "woman's nature" has some meaning rather than individual choices makes it misogynistic. .

I admit, I looked back and couldn't find what you are talking about, as I had left the thread pages ago. So, apart from what may have been said........How is "woman's nature", a misogynistic term in general? I see it as a positive term. Maybe I hold women I higher regard than you. Do you think both genders are identical, except physically?

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:00 pm

UKJ wrote:
OrangeDragon wrote:the very concept that "woman's nature" has some meaning rather than individual choices makes it misogynistic. .
I admit, I looked back and couldn't find what you are talking about, as I had left the thread pages ago. So, apart from what may have been said........How is "woman's nature", a misogynistic term in general? I see it as a positive term. Maybe I hold women I higher regard than you. Do you think both genders are identical, except physically?

I suppose this is what OD is referring to :

Drifter wrote: women can be evil, indeed, but it doesn't mean they are or they will be evil.

all i'm saying is that their nature is evil and it can be unleashed at the right time and opportunity, just as we can see in all the broken marriages and relationships among our friends and relatives, or in all the cases of domestic violence we can read in the news, and what about paternity fraud, the list goes on.

ali baba · Post by **ali baba** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:32 pm

At the top of the previous page....

Drifter wrote:
frank lee bent wrote:Evil womens nature? WTF? Whoever said that is totally fonged in the head.
Just plain strange that statement, and argues a very unstable and conflicted psyche.
all religions agree with me on the POTENTIAL evil nature of women if they're left free of constraints.

in all cultures around the world there are stricter social policies for women than for men to prevent their nature to be unleashed and to protect women from themselves.

Feminism and liberalism managed to remove these constraints and the social stigmas and now we can all see the results.

even the khmer have some proverbs regarding women's nature, comparing it to a cotton wool that once gets dirty can not be cleaned etc etc

In Drifter's world view the patriarchy is needed to protect all of us from evil women who can not control themselves when burdened with their own agency.

Drifter · Post by **Drifter** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:43 pm

ali baba wrote:In Drifter's world view the patriarchy is needed to protect all of us from evil women who can not control themselves when burdened with their own agency.

so why you're so scared of my opinions if you feel they're rubbish ?
maybe because truth hurts ?

and by the way, am i entitled having an opinion at all or to post in this forum you're expected to stick to what is accepted as mainstream in the West ?

patriarchy ? so what ? you're living in one of the most patriarchal countries in Asia in case you haven't noticed.
besides, i'm not a supporter of patriarchy, i'm for free love and the abolition of marriage.

Drifter · Post by **Drifter** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:55 pm

ali baba wrote:In Drifter's world view the patriarchy is needed

no, patriarchy has been the ball and chain for men since millennias and it must go.

but it doesn't mean it can be or should be replaced by matriarchy.

what we need is a hybrid system based on love and individualism.

ali baba · Post by **ali baba** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:58 pm

Do you ever post anything coherent or is it always non-sequesters?
Yet another reason not to engage with you.

OrangeDragon · Post by **OrangeDragon** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:10 pm

Anchor Moy wrote:
UKJ wrote:
OrangeDragon wrote:the very concept that "woman's nature" has some meaning rather than individual choices makes it misogynistic. .
I admit, I looked back and couldn't find what you are talking about, as I had left the thread pages ago. So, apart from what may have been said........How is "woman's nature", a misogynistic term in general? I see it as a positive term. Maybe I hold women I higher regard than you. Do you think both genders are identical, except physically?
I suppose this is what OD is referring to :

Drifter wrote: women can be evil, indeed, but it doesn't mean they are or they will be evil.

all i'm saying is that their nature is evil and it can be unleashed at the right time and opportunity, just as we can see in all the broken marriages and relationships among our friends and relatives, or in all the cases of domestic violence we can read in the news, and what about paternity fraud, the list goes on.

spot on.

OrangeDragon · Post by **OrangeDragon** » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:15 pm

Drifter wrote: and by the way, am i entitled having an opinion at all or to post in this forum you're expected to stick to what is accepted as mainstream in the West ?

to post in this forum you're expected not to be a bigot or express bigotry... and you sir (i presume... you do post a lot like some chick just trolling us in many ways) are expressing bigotry in an extreme enough degree that other posters are complaining to me.

You're driving off other users instead of engaging them in discussion/debate, just using the site as your personal soap box to spread a message of discrimination... we should rename you KeepingItDrifter.

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