Hong Kong Protesters: Radical Elements Storm Parliament
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Re: Hong Kong Protesters: Radical Elements Storm Parliament
With tanks waiting just across the border, it wont spread.frank lee bent wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:11 am The PRC will hose it down, they can't risk it spreading to the mainland especially when faced with the economic blowback from the trade war.
The decision to stop importing ag products from USA will create real hardship. Neither Russia or south America has the capacity to supply especially given the USD nominal trades.
If the strait of Hormuz is compromised, they will be in the shit for oil too. Casus belli already exists for the Yanks to interdict.
FYI; good friend of mine's daughter lives/works in Beijing. He asked her ,(Via skype) what is the opinion on the street about hk. she didn't know anything about it.
Sure u can get a vpn and go around, but the average person just accepts what the goverment puts out
Trump is making it worse with this fucking tit for tat trade war
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Surprise surprise!she didn't know anything about it.
No doubt the general populace don't know the shit going on in little Macau either. Gotta protect your investments..
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A mainland Chinese guy that I know, told me that everyone trusts their government.phuketrichard wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:27 am . . . the average person just accepts what the goverment puts out
I think we know why.
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first shot fired; The door has been opened
and images from a protest in Paris BUT attributed to taking place in HK:
The first picture, captioned: “Hong Kong police officers attack people with water cannons”,
BUT when it was first published it read.
Its caption reads in part: “Yellow Vest protesters receive water from a water cannon during clashes with riot police forces, in Paris on March 16, 2019.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hong-kong- ... 019-08-25/Hong Kong police drew their guns and fired a warning shot Sunday night after protesters attacked officers with sticks and rods. Authorities brought out water cannon trucks for the first time, an escalation in the summerlong protests that have shaken the city's government and residents.
and images from a protest in Paris BUT attributed to taking place in HK:
The first picture, captioned: “Hong Kong police officers attack people with water cannons”,
BUT when it was first published it read.
Its caption reads in part: “Yellow Vest protesters receive water from a water cannon during clashes with riot police forces, in Paris on March 16, 2019.”
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Ties to China shape cautious reaction to Hong Kong protests
Lori Hinnant, Associated Press Updated 8:06 pm CDT, Wednesday, August 21, 2019
Governments around the world are taking a cautious approach to responding to the protests roiling Hong Kong. With the notable exception of Taiwan, cautious comments from a handful of governments fall short of support for the demonstrators. They are so mild that even the word “protest” itself was left out of the joint EU-Canada statement that was the most recent to infuriate the Chinese government. Most are unwilling to risk that fury at all, showing China’s deep influence around the world.
For Canada and the European Union, they are a "situation." For President Donald Trump, a potential stumbling block in ongoing trade disputes. And for South Korea, an issue to be monitored.
With the notable exception of Taiwan, cautious comments from the few governments willing to speak out on the ongoing protests in Hong Kong fall far short of support for the demonstrators. They are so mild that even the word "protest" itself was left out of the joint EU-Canada statement that was the most recent to infuriate the Chinese government. And the vast majority of countries are unwilling to risk that fury at all.
China's weapon is also its greatest lure: a population of nearly 1.4 billion. Otherwise known as the world's largest market, to be opened or closed at will. China has also become a major builder of roads, ports, power plants and other infrastructure in developing countries.
"It's really an anodyne statement," Theresa Fallon, a researcher on EU-Asia relations, said of the one released by the EU and Canada. "Of course the Chinese knew that these statements would be made, but they cracked down right away. They have zero tolerance for that. ... Everyone is afraid to be punished by China."
SOUTHEAST ASIA
Southeast Asian countries generally have little need or desire to take a public stand on the Hong Kong protests.
Many try to strike a balance between Beijing and Washington, moving toward the Chinese end of the scale in recent years as China has projected its influence more vigorously. The poorer members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations — Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar —have become reliant on Beijing's economic largesse, and virtually all have embraced China's ambitious Belt and Road Initiative to help expand their infrastructure, though often with reservations and in the case of the more developed nations, with some hard bargaining.
At the same time, several nations have publicly complained of China's efforts at expanding its influence, especially its ambitious territorial claims over the South China Sea at the expanse of Beijing's smaller neighbors.
Full article: https://www.chron.com/news/world/articl ... 365726.php
Lori Hinnant, Associated Press Updated 8:06 pm CDT, Wednesday, August 21, 2019
Governments around the world are taking a cautious approach to responding to the protests roiling Hong Kong. With the notable exception of Taiwan, cautious comments from a handful of governments fall short of support for the demonstrators. They are so mild that even the word “protest” itself was left out of the joint EU-Canada statement that was the most recent to infuriate the Chinese government. Most are unwilling to risk that fury at all, showing China’s deep influence around the world.
For Canada and the European Union, they are a "situation." For President Donald Trump, a potential stumbling block in ongoing trade disputes. And for South Korea, an issue to be monitored.
With the notable exception of Taiwan, cautious comments from the few governments willing to speak out on the ongoing protests in Hong Kong fall far short of support for the demonstrators. They are so mild that even the word "protest" itself was left out of the joint EU-Canada statement that was the most recent to infuriate the Chinese government. And the vast majority of countries are unwilling to risk that fury at all.
China's weapon is also its greatest lure: a population of nearly 1.4 billion. Otherwise known as the world's largest market, to be opened or closed at will. China has also become a major builder of roads, ports, power plants and other infrastructure in developing countries.
"It's really an anodyne statement," Theresa Fallon, a researcher on EU-Asia relations, said of the one released by the EU and Canada. "Of course the Chinese knew that these statements would be made, but they cracked down right away. They have zero tolerance for that. ... Everyone is afraid to be punished by China."
SOUTHEAST ASIA
Southeast Asian countries generally have little need or desire to take a public stand on the Hong Kong protests.
Many try to strike a balance between Beijing and Washington, moving toward the Chinese end of the scale in recent years as China has projected its influence more vigorously. The poorer members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations — Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar —have become reliant on Beijing's economic largesse, and virtually all have embraced China's ambitious Belt and Road Initiative to help expand their infrastructure, though often with reservations and in the case of the more developed nations, with some hard bargaining.
At the same time, several nations have publicly complained of China's efforts at expanding its influence, especially its ambitious territorial claims over the South China Sea at the expanse of Beijing's smaller neighbors.
Full article: https://www.chron.com/news/world/articl ... 365726.php
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Re: Hong Kong Protesters: Radical Elements Storm Parliament
Of course the average mainland Chinese guy trusts the government. The government monitors him 24/7 to make sure he will always trust the government. Plus with the social credit system, he is rewarded for trusting the government.Username Taken wrote:A mainland Chinese guy that I know, told me that everyone trusts their government.
Don’t trust the government and his is punished, severely. Trust the government and his is handsomely rewarded.
The PRC has always wanted to gobble up Taiwan as it has Hong Kong and Macau. Preferably, peacefully. If the tanks go in to Hong Kong, the PRC might need to violently swallow up Taiwan.
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August 31, 2019 / 4:59 AM / Updated 8 minutes ago
Hong Kong protests turn to chaos amid tear gas and petrol bombs
Joe Brock, Farah Master
HONG KONG (Reuters) - Hong Kong police fired tear gas and water cannon on Saturday as pro-democracy protesters threw petrol bombs in the latest in a series of clashes that have plunged the Chinese-ruled city into its worst political crisis in decades.
Police fired round after round of tear gas and protesters took cover behind umbrellas between the local headquarters of China’s People’s Liberation Army and the government. Protesters also threw bricks dug up from pathways at police.
The water cannon unleashed blue-dyed water, traditionally used elsewhere in the world to make it easier for police to identify protesters later.
The protests, which at one point blocked three key roads, came on the fifth anniversary of a decision by China to curtail democratic reforms and rule out universal suffrage in Hong Kong, a former British colony that was returned to China in 1997.
“The government today said rashly embarking on political reform again will further polarize society, which is an irresponsible act,” the government news.gov.hk website said.
“It noted any discussions on constitutional development have to be premised on the legal basis, and be conducted under a peaceful atmosphere with mutual trust in a pragmatic manner.”
The People’s Liberation Army on Thursday rotated its troops in Hong Kong in what it said was a routine operation. Their Hong Kong HQ was the former base of the British military garrison.
Full article: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hong ... SKCN1VL02V
Hong Kong protests turn to chaos amid tear gas and petrol bombs
Joe Brock, Farah Master
HONG KONG (Reuters) - Hong Kong police fired tear gas and water cannon on Saturday as pro-democracy protesters threw petrol bombs in the latest in a series of clashes that have plunged the Chinese-ruled city into its worst political crisis in decades.
Police fired round after round of tear gas and protesters took cover behind umbrellas between the local headquarters of China’s People’s Liberation Army and the government. Protesters also threw bricks dug up from pathways at police.
The water cannon unleashed blue-dyed water, traditionally used elsewhere in the world to make it easier for police to identify protesters later.
The protests, which at one point blocked three key roads, came on the fifth anniversary of a decision by China to curtail democratic reforms and rule out universal suffrage in Hong Kong, a former British colony that was returned to China in 1997.
“The government today said rashly embarking on political reform again will further polarize society, which is an irresponsible act,” the government news.gov.hk website said.
“It noted any discussions on constitutional development have to be premised on the legal basis, and be conducted under a peaceful atmosphere with mutual trust in a pragmatic manner.”
The People’s Liberation Army on Thursday rotated its troops in Hong Kong in what it said was a routine operation. Their Hong Kong HQ was the former base of the British military garrison.
Full article: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hong ... SKCN1VL02V
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Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam formally withdraws extradition Bill
The Straits Times
Sep 04, 2019
HONG KONG - Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam on Wednesday (Sept 4) formally withdrew a contentious extradition Bill following months of protests.
"The government will formally withdraw the Bill," she said in a pre-recorded address in Cantonese and English that was carried by all major broadcasters in Hong Kong.
It follows a meeting with pro-establishment political figures, the South China Morning Post newspaper and other media reported, citing people they did not identify. The gathering included local legislators and the city's representatives to national legislative bodies.
https://www.asiaone.com/asia/hong-kong- ... dia-report
The Straits Times
Sep 04, 2019
HONG KONG - Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam on Wednesday (Sept 4) formally withdrew a contentious extradition Bill following months of protests.
"The government will formally withdraw the Bill," she said in a pre-recorded address in Cantonese and English that was carried by all major broadcasters in Hong Kong.
It follows a meeting with pro-establishment political figures, the South China Morning Post newspaper and other media reported, citing people they did not identify. The gathering included local legislators and the city's representatives to national legislative bodies.
https://www.asiaone.com/asia/hong-kong- ... dia-report
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Good job people.
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Re: Hong Kong Protesters: Radical Elements Storm Parliament
Posted from HK yesterday.
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Travellers, if you're coming into Hong Kong today or already here, this is the live situation in Causeway Bay. Malls are closed and huge protests are taking place.
Look at alternative places to visit - perhaps Mongkok (for now) or TST in Kowloon.
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