Asia Traveler wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:05 am couple of questions from observations of the Chinese that frequent Phuket

Why do they feel the need to talk so DAM LOUD in public?
Why, in supermarkets do they block lanes and aisles?
Why do the have no respect for other cultures?
Why do they seem to not act human at times, (all one needs do is look at the videos of Chinese behaving badly) ?

Could you shed some light on these behaviors? It is extremely hard to like having anyone with these traits near you regardless of race or country or origin yet the main land Chinese demonstrate this behaviors so often. Why?

I already explained that. It is because of the Cultural Revolution and Chairman Mao. Actually many Chinese do have manners, look at the Chinese who grew up in Hong Kong, Taiwan or Singapore, very polite and helpful, not doing any of the above you listed - those countries didn't experience Maoism and Cultural Revolution. There are also many well mannered and well-off Chinese, but they tend to stay at home, and act normally, not being noticed abroad - or go to Europe, USA, Australia etc. - why would they need to start a new life in SE Asia if they can go to a rich country to have a good life?

You need to understand that the majority of Chinese in Cambodia are from poor, farmer or working-class backgrounds and grew up in smelly huts shared with chickens or in dirty, crumbling housing, and never were able to attain any good education, apart from their village primary/secondary school. Often they were brought up in poverty by their grandparents in the countryside, while parents worked in new factories in cities and visited only once or twice a year. Now they follow their parents' and grandparents' rural behaviour, which allowed the older generation to survive in Mao's era. Being a "proper" farmer with (exaggerated) farmer manners was envied, heroized and something to aspire to in China in the 60s and 70s, and no one wanted to be seen as a bourgeoisie contra-revolutionary, especially during the purges of Cultural Revolution. What was learned was never unlearned and continues to the second generation now. It is getting better though.

I find it amusing Richard is complaining about loudness. The Americans are the loudest people I’ve met, after Australians!

Fantastic post Mr.November. Very informative and just maybe it’ll change some people’s mindsets. Doubtful but hopeful.

Very interesting in comparing it to a civilization rather than a state. Not thought about it like that.

davegorman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:58 am I find it amusing Richard is complaining about loudness.

Richard complains about everything, lets face it.

Population-wide trauma for an extended period does not fix itself overnight, it seems.

Both China's and Cambodia's society were totally turned upside down, inside out, and then reformed into something completely new.
That turmoil lasted for one or more generations in both places.
Maybe we should not expect the finer details of a civilised society to reestablish themselves so soon.

Great tutorial today Mr N, and PR's posted link is excellent also.

SINUS wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:26 pm

ozguyinshv wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:51 am I met some very friendly Chinese in Sihanoukville when I was working there. Knowing some of the language helped. But yeah Sihanoukville is a dump.

Once in Australia on the Victory River I met a crocodile who was friendly with me and did not try to devour me.
however, I do not trust crocodiles.

Never trust crocodiles.

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:16 am They way they act is totally unacceptable for a human being in public. Have you seen some of the videos coming out of Thailand and the behavior of the mainlanders?

Yeah, haha. Weird.