What's happening with the Cambodiana Hotel

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What's happening with the Cambodiana Hotel

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I go there several days a week to use the gym and the pool and am concerned about a rumour I heard that it was going to be flattened in 4 months. I am due to renew my 6 month membership in 2 months so don't want to get caught out!

Someone else told me was being just being refurbished. I asked someone else who told me that plans have been approved for two 50 storey buildings but the technical difficulties building such a structure so close to the river would probably be too challenging for this area.

Does anyone know what is going on?
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Well Doc they said last year it would be but sounded like another fanciful bombastic idea and nothing since. It is owned by the Royal Group who have had a few issues of late, although maybe selling the ANZ Royal freed up some cash
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angkorjohn2 wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:31 am Well Doc they said last year it would be but sounded like another fanciful bombastic idea and nothing since. It is owned by the Royal Group who have had a few issues of late, although maybe selling the ANZ Royal freed up some cash
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I take some solace from the size of the proposed project. The technical challenges of a 133 story building would be enormous, two at 60 storeys would still probably be too much. Plus, of course, the economic viability of the project, although you can't rule out a vanity project mindset.

Hopefully it will quietly get shelved for a while longer when the final technical and economic feasibility studies hit their desks...
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angkorjohn2 wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:31 am Well Doc they said last year it would be but sounded like another fanciful bombastic idea and nothing since. It is owned by the Royal Group who have had a few issues of late, although maybe selling the ANZ Royal freed up some cash
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I don't think Royal Group sold their share of the bank, so it is now a JTrust/Royal Group venture instead - ANZ are the ones that wanted out of the region entirely.

It's certainly overdue a refurb, not heard anything about demolition.
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Scaffolding and netting have gone on the front in the last few days, and various rooms facing Sisowath have been refurbed in the last few months. Looks more like a paint job and some freshening up than a demolition.

The brand new Emion hotel opposite probably squeezing their business with nicer, cheaper rooms.

Edit. I'm referring to the Himawari above, not the Cambodiana.
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I've known people claiming they were working on the refurbishing / demolition / selling of Cambodiana since at least 10 years, and nothing ever happened so far. Maybe the same rumour circulating around?
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One of our Khmer members, Samouth, reported on his brief employment there.

Sounded like absolute slavery.
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The Cambodiana has been my parents hotel of choice when coming for their yearly visits to the Kingdom for the past 10 years.

Over the last 2 years I've noticed a marked decline in service, quality and general upkeep. Even on the 5th floor which are supposed to be the poshest quarters.

It's gotten to the point that I am almost embarrassed to have them stay there again. For what they charge for the 5th floor rooms, the current state of play is unacceptable.

I think this year I'll be steering them somewhere else.
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frank lee bent wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:35 am One of our Khmer members, Samouth, reported on his brief employment there.

Sounded like absolute slavery.
Samouth worked at Raffles.
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One can build a building of any height anywhere provided the foundations are correctly designed and built. I know someone who put in piles in Takamau on the river bank and about 20 metres down hit rock and burnt vegetation. Was it a primeval forest that once existed on that watercourse?
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