Martial law declaired in Thailand! NOT ITS a MILITARY COUP
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and personal friend of thaksin and storing weapons so it seems, he split FAST
Navy is also in control here in Phuket
Alex; not all but its a start
getting rid of Thaksin is one step that can only be positive for the country.
Navy is also in control here in Phuket
Alex; not all but its a start
getting rid of Thaksin is one step that can only be positive for the country.
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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I'd loved to have been a fly on the wall when Chalerm had to present himself to the Army, I hope he hadn't had too much sauce when he went in, ( assuming he has ).
Yes sir, I can boogie, I can boogie, boogie, boogie all night long.
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Insider's report on coup decision
Less than 24 hours after the coup, Matichon Online had an account of events leading up to what is probably the most publicly staged coup in history.
Published: 23/05/2014 at 05:37 PM
This is its report:
At 2pm on Thursday, representatives of seven groups began the second day of peace talks hosted by army commander Prayuth Chan-ocha.
The general began by asking all sides what they could do about the five issues he had asked them to consider on the previous day, a source at the closed-door meeting told Matichon Online.
Wan Muhamad Nor Matha of the Pheu Thai Party said the best his party could do was to ask ministers to take leave of absence or vacation.
Chaikasem Nitisiri of the caretaker government insisted cabinet members would be breaking the law and could be sued later if they resigned.
Abhisit Vejjajiva of the Democrat Party disagreed, citing as a precedent Visanu Krue-ngam, who had previously resigned as acting deputy prime minister, but Mr Chaikasem stood his ground.
Veerakarn Musikapong of the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) said this debate was useless and a person would need a mattress and a pillow if they were to continue with it.
This was like discussing a religious faith in which everyone was firm in his belief. The army chief had a lot on his shoulders now because he came when the water was already waist-high.
If he continued, Mr Veerakarn said, he would be drowned. The army chief should walk away and announced there would be election. That way, his name would be untarnished.
At this point, Gen Prayuth snapped back: "Stop it. Religious issues I don't know much about. What I do know is I'll hunt down each and every one of those 'infidels'. Don't worry about me drowning. I'm a good swimmer and I've studied the situation for three years.
"Back in 2010, I didn't have absolute power. So don't fight me. I was accused of accepting six billion baht in exchange of doing nothing. I insist I didn't get even one baht."
At this point, Jatuporn Prompan of the UDD appeared more appeasing, saying since an election could not be held now anyway, the best solution was to hold a referendum on whether national reform should come before or after the next election.
The debate went on for a while before Suthep Thaugsuban of the People's Democratic Reform Committee said political parties were not involved in this.
"This was a problem between the UDD and the PDRC," he declared.
He proposed the two groups meet in a separate session.
Mr Abhisit said the government should also join in, but Mr Suthep insisted on only the people's groups.
Gen Prayuth allowed the two groups to meet separately.
In the meantime, Mr Abhisit suggested other participants should go home now that the two sides were in talks, but Gen Prayuth insisted on everyone staying where they were until a conclusion was reached.
The UDD and PDRC sides talked for 30 minutes.
After that, Gen Prayuth led them back to the meeting, saying he would announce the results of the talks.
At that point, Mr Suthep asked for a minute and walked over to say something with Gen Prayuth, with Mr Jatuporn present.
When they were done, Gen Prayuth said: "It's nothing. We talked about how the restrooms are not in order."
After that, the army chief asked the government side whether it insisted on not resigning.
Mr Chaikasem said:" We won't resign".
Gen Prayuth then declared: "If that's the case, the Election Commission need not talk about the polls and the Senate need not talk about Section 7."
He then stood up and spoke in a loud voice: "I'm sorry. I have to seize the ruling power."
It was 4.32pm.
At that point some of the attendees still thought he was joking.
They changed their minds when the general walked to the exit and turned back to tell them in a stern voice: "You all stay here. Don't go anywhere."
He then left the room.
After that armed soldiers came to detain the participants in groups. Notably, Prompong Nopparit who came in the government's quota was detained with the UDD group in a separate room.
Mr Veerakarn had a smile on his face and forgot his cane.
Mr Abhisit told Varathep Rattanakorn and Chadchart Sittipunt of the government: "I told you so".
A pale-faced Chadchart snapped:"So what? What's the point of saying it now?"
The military put the Democrat and Pheu Thai parties in the same room while the rest were put in different rooms.
The senators and election commissioners were let out first.
The rest is history. http://m.bangkokpost.com/latestnews/411419
Insider's report on coup decision
Less than 24 hours after the coup, Matichon Online had an account of events leading up to what is probably the most publicly staged coup in history.
Published: 23/05/2014 at 05:37 PM
This is its report:
At 2pm on Thursday, representatives of seven groups began the second day of peace talks hosted by army commander Prayuth Chan-ocha.
The general began by asking all sides what they could do about the five issues he had asked them to consider on the previous day, a source at the closed-door meeting told Matichon Online.
Wan Muhamad Nor Matha of the Pheu Thai Party said the best his party could do was to ask ministers to take leave of absence or vacation.
Chaikasem Nitisiri of the caretaker government insisted cabinet members would be breaking the law and could be sued later if they resigned.
Abhisit Vejjajiva of the Democrat Party disagreed, citing as a precedent Visanu Krue-ngam, who had previously resigned as acting deputy prime minister, but Mr Chaikasem stood his ground.
Veerakarn Musikapong of the United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) said this debate was useless and a person would need a mattress and a pillow if they were to continue with it.
This was like discussing a religious faith in which everyone was firm in his belief. The army chief had a lot on his shoulders now because he came when the water was already waist-high.
If he continued, Mr Veerakarn said, he would be drowned. The army chief should walk away and announced there would be election. That way, his name would be untarnished.
At this point, Gen Prayuth snapped back: "Stop it. Religious issues I don't know much about. What I do know is I'll hunt down each and every one of those 'infidels'. Don't worry about me drowning. I'm a good swimmer and I've studied the situation for three years.
"Back in 2010, I didn't have absolute power. So don't fight me. I was accused of accepting six billion baht in exchange of doing nothing. I insist I didn't get even one baht."
At this point, Jatuporn Prompan of the UDD appeared more appeasing, saying since an election could not be held now anyway, the best solution was to hold a referendum on whether national reform should come before or after the next election.
The debate went on for a while before Suthep Thaugsuban of the People's Democratic Reform Committee said political parties were not involved in this.
"This was a problem between the UDD and the PDRC," he declared.
He proposed the two groups meet in a separate session.
Mr Abhisit said the government should also join in, but Mr Suthep insisted on only the people's groups.
Gen Prayuth allowed the two groups to meet separately.
In the meantime, Mr Abhisit suggested other participants should go home now that the two sides were in talks, but Gen Prayuth insisted on everyone staying where they were until a conclusion was reached.
The UDD and PDRC sides talked for 30 minutes.
After that, Gen Prayuth led them back to the meeting, saying he would announce the results of the talks.
At that point, Mr Suthep asked for a minute and walked over to say something with Gen Prayuth, with Mr Jatuporn present.
When they were done, Gen Prayuth said: "It's nothing. We talked about how the restrooms are not in order."
After that, the army chief asked the government side whether it insisted on not resigning.
Mr Chaikasem said:" We won't resign".
Gen Prayuth then declared: "If that's the case, the Election Commission need not talk about the polls and the Senate need not talk about Section 7."
He then stood up and spoke in a loud voice: "I'm sorry. I have to seize the ruling power."
It was 4.32pm.
At that point some of the attendees still thought he was joking.
They changed their minds when the general walked to the exit and turned back to tell them in a stern voice: "You all stay here. Don't go anywhere."
He then left the room.
After that armed soldiers came to detain the participants in groups. Notably, Prompong Nopparit who came in the government's quota was detained with the UDD group in a separate room.
Mr Veerakarn had a smile on his face and forgot his cane.
Mr Abhisit told Varathep Rattanakorn and Chadchart Sittipunt of the government: "I told you so".
A pale-faced Chadchart snapped:"So what? What's the point of saying it now?"
The military put the Democrat and Pheu Thai parties in the same room while the rest were put in different rooms.
The senators and election commissioners were let out first.
The rest is history. http://m.bangkokpost.com/latestnews/411419
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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So in other words, Don't fuck with me, Motherfuckers. What a bunch of spoilt children.
Who's the General's boss?
Who's the General's boss?
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Yingluck!Milord wrote: Who's the General's boss?
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Younglick, an excellent Thai name.Username Taken wrote:Yingluck!Milord wrote: Who's the General's boss?
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Even thou he said he wouldn't
PLUS the larger question is how long will the curfew last? If it extends into next week, tourism will not recover this year and more important, there goes any foreign investment
Don't expect to see any elections anytime soon.Thai coup leader disbands Senate, assumes law-making power
BANGKOK, May 24, 2014 (AFP) - Thailand's military junta has disbanded the country's Senate and placed all law-making responsibility in the hands of the army general who led this week's coup, the army said on Saturday.
"The Senate is dismissed. Responsibility for any laws needing the approval of the parliament or Senate will instead be assumed by the leader of the (junta)," said an announcement on national television.
PLUS the larger question is how long will the curfew last? If it extends into next week, tourism will not recover this year and more important, there goes any foreign investment
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Don't expect to see any elections anytime soon.
Probable, the coup outed the red, a look at the election recently ( in fact for the past 10 year) indicates that if election are held the red will win. So I do not see a rush for organizing election.
PLUS the larger question is how long will the curfew last? If it extends into next week, tourism will not recover this year and more important, there goes any foreign investment
Tourism in not that important, from memory around 20% of Thailand revenue, but it employ 30% of the work force. For the industry and agriculture ( where the big big money is ) the curfew and the stat of the tourism is unimportant.
For the foreign investment ( essentially the U.S and Europe) the fact that election will not be held is a BIG problem, for image and stability concern when you plane to invest in a democracy you want it to stay a democracy.
Plus the REAL BIG trouble that will not go away, the red will not stay quiet so even more turbulence in the future. Every body want Thaskin out (including not a few red), but the political movement itself win election after election.
Bad time ahead that for certain
Probable, the coup outed the red, a look at the election recently ( in fact for the past 10 year) indicates that if election are held the red will win. So I do not see a rush for organizing election.
PLUS the larger question is how long will the curfew last? If it extends into next week, tourism will not recover this year and more important, there goes any foreign investment
Tourism in not that important, from memory around 20% of Thailand revenue, but it employ 30% of the work force. For the industry and agriculture ( where the big big money is ) the curfew and the stat of the tourism is unimportant.
For the foreign investment ( essentially the U.S and Europe) the fact that election will not be held is a BIG problem, for image and stability concern when you plane to invest in a democracy you want it to stay a democracy.
Plus the REAL BIG trouble that will not go away, the red will not stay quiet so even more turbulence in the future. Every body want Thaskin out (including not a few red), but the political movement itself win election after election.
Bad time ahead that for certain
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6% Only BUT lots of public opinion.
BUT foreign investment ts huge,
That was in March> how much do u think will be held up now?
Honda announced the other day they are cutting their work force by 20,000 employees!!
others will follow
US withdrew 3.5 Million of aid ( 1/3rd of its total) although not a huge amount, its a indication of trust and others will re evaluate their investment and aid here.
Plus u have the anti coup protestors out now, its small but will grow and is not red or yellow. IF it turns Violent...
Not everyone wants Thaksin out, he has still a huge following and supporters, did u see my thread he has plans to start a government in exile ( possibly in Cambodia as T and HE are best friends)
Tonight already the southerns are taking advantage of the no government
It is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
BUT foreign investment ts huge,
More than $15bn of planned foreign and domestic investment in Thailand is on hold..
The near-500bn baht of stalled proposals is equal to almost 50 per cent the 1,182bn baht of applications – well over half of it from manufacturers – submitted in 2012, according to the board’s website.
That was in March> how much do u think will be held up now?
Honda announced the other day they are cutting their work force by 20,000 employees!!
others will follow
US withdrew 3.5 Million of aid ( 1/3rd of its total) although not a huge amount, its a indication of trust and others will re evaluate their investment and aid here.
Plus u have the anti coup protestors out now, its small but will grow and is not red or yellow. IF it turns Violent...
Not everyone wants Thaksin out, he has still a huge following and supporters, did u see my thread he has plans to start a government in exile ( possibly in Cambodia as T and HE are best friends)
Tonight already the southerns are taking advantage of the no government
Taken all these things separately is no big deal but put them all together...Latest reports are saying 13 explosions in Pattani & 2 in Narathiwat in Southern 2 dead 52 wounded.
It is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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