Honda Click tire deflating

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Honda Click tire deflating

Post by IraHayes » Tue May 07, 2019 7:39 am

3 year old click. 3 months ago while having it serviced at the Honda dealership it was pointed out to me there were a couple of splits in the side wall. The longest being an inch. I guessed this was the reason the tire had been gradually deflating over a week or so and had a new one fitted.

That has appeared to exasperate the problem as now it will, on occasions go fully flat over night.
I took it to a guy and with the old washing up liquid trick we saw it was leaking where the tire seats on the rim. So a poor seal. Now he seemed to have cured it as no leakes were showing but it has now gone fully flat again!

Recommendations for a place to put this issue to bed would be helpful and information on how to prevent future problems like this.
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Re: Honda Click tire deflating

Post by A10 » Tue May 07, 2019 7:53 am

Just replied to the duplicate that got deleted...lol

Aluminum wheels can develop leaks over time either from micro stress fractures or just being badly cast from the factory. First way to tell is to dunk the wheel under water (overinflated to around 60 psi) to see where the leak is coming from. Soapy water wont reveal some leaks, which is why immersion is necessary.

Sorry, can't help on what shop would do this though.
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Re: Honda Click tire deflating

Post by Kammekor » Tue May 07, 2019 8:12 am

Maybe the alu wheel has been deformed a bit when you hit a pothole?
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Re: Honda Click tire deflating

Post by explorer » Tue May 07, 2019 8:43 am

IraHayes wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:39 am
Recommendations for a place to put this issue to bed would be helpful and information on how to prevent future problems like this.
There are products available which you can put in the tire. These come out anywhere leaks occur, and set, stopping the leak. Some brand names are:

Fix-A-Flat
Slime
Quad Boss
Ride-On
LiquiTube
Orange Endurance
Stan's NoTubes
Berryman Seal-R

I have never looked for these in Cambodia. You will probably find one of them somewhere.
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Re: Honda Click tire deflating

Post by Kuroneko » Tue May 07, 2019 9:49 am

IraHayes wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 7:39 am
3 year old click. 3 months ago while having it serviced at the Honda dealership it was pointed out to me there were a couple of splits in the side wall. The longest being an inch. I guessed this was the reason the tire had been gradually deflating over a week or so and had a new one fitted.

That has appeared to exasperate the problem as now it will, on occasions go fully flat over night.
I took it to a guy and with the old washing up liquid trick we saw it was leaking where the tire seats on the rim. So a poor seal. Now he seemed to have cured it as no leakes were showing but it has now gone fully flat again!

Recommendations for a place to put this issue to bed would be helpful and information on how to prevent future problems like this.
:shock: If there are splits in the sidewall you need to "bin it" and get a new tyre. Once tyres start to get crazing, ie small cracks in the sidewall they are becoming unsafe, certainly if they have splits in the sidewall they are dangerously unsafe and need to be replaced.

Tyres also have an age limit of 5 years which you can check by looking at the age of manufacture stamp on the tyre sidewall. Eg the tyre below shows a stamp 1413 which means it was manufactured in the 14th week of 2013. Tyres older than 5 years need careful checking, personally I would discard them anyway. A blow out at speed, especially on the front wheel does not bear thinking about.

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Re: Honda Click tire deflating

Post by IraHayes » Tue May 07, 2019 9:55 am

End of the first paragraph.... i said i had a new one fitted.
My mistake... well maybe 2... was a poor choice of mechanic and a cheap tire.

The overinflation and full immersion in water sounds like the way to go but i thought tubeless tires had a paste smeared around the edge where they seal to the rim. Maybe i should google this tbh.
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Re: Honda Click tire deflating

Post by A10 » Tue May 07, 2019 10:06 am

I thought you had the Honda dealer fit a new tire? If I read that wrong and you got an aftermarket cheapy (not that it's your fault), then it's worth checking if the bead is seated right. Most cheap mechanics I've seen do the opposite of using bead sealer and use used motor oil to lube the rim to slip the tire over easier. If that's the case, especially if the rim wasn't cleaned up before having the tire fit, then it may just be a poorly seated bead which is where I'm leaning.

If the bead is seated right, then it might be worth checking the valve itself if you didn't have that replaced when getting the new tire.
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Re: Honda Click tire deflating

Post by davegorman » Tue May 07, 2019 10:09 am

Tubeless tyres on a moto?
How odd.
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Re: Honda Click tire deflating

Post by A10 » Tue May 07, 2019 10:31 am

Been quite common for years now on bikes w/alloys.
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Re: Honda Click tire deflating

Post by Spigzy » Tue May 07, 2019 11:05 am

Kammekor wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 8:12 am
Maybe the alu wheel has been deformed a bit when you hit a pothole?
Agree with this suggestion - one leaky tyre is fine, but to redo it, new tyre, etc. I think your answer is that the wheel is out of shape and no amount of side wall sealant is going to hold the gap.
Kuroneko wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 9:49 am
:shock: If there are splits in the sidewall you need to "bin it" and get a new tyre. Once tyres start to get crazing, ie small cracks in the sidewall they are becoming unsafe, certainly if they have splits in the sidewall they are dangerously unsafe and need to be replaced.

Tyres also have an age limit of 5 years which you can check by looking at the age of manufacture stamp on the tyre sidewall. Eg the tyre below shows a stamp 1413 which means it was manufactured in the 14th week of 2013. Tyres older than 5 years need careful checking, personally I would discard them anyway. A blow out at speed, especially on the front wheel does not bear thinking about.

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