Visiting an Orphanage
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It’s extremely damaging to the children, do your damn research ffs.xandreu wrote:I agree that children should not be tourist attractions, but there's nothing wrong with the sentiment of wanting to help. It's a little odd that people like to jump down the throats of people who express a desire to help in some way.
Visiting an orphanage with the intention of donating gifts or money is at worst, a little misguided. Nothing else.
The real exploitation is coming from the people who are using these children to benefit themselves.
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The children suffer emotionally. Have you seen how quickly they want to hug westerners (wether it’s by instruction or instinct) then a few pictures (Instagram and FB) and off the westerner goes. Until the next one, and so on.
Children need routines.
It’s a fucking disgrace.
Children need routines.
It’s a fucking disgrace.
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I am going to assume you have read the various links posted, including the one i found regarding sunrise? Yes ? if so you have a serious case of this
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Good Lord. Wherever did I even hint, let alone suggest that I thought visiting orphanages was a good idea? Seems that some people are so quick to demonstrate what righteous, upstanding, considerate and moral people they are, they can't be bothered to read a post properly.
The gist of my post (sigh), was that while most of us can see the damage that visiting orphans does to the emotional well-being of the children, others don't. But that doesn't justify insinuating that they are somehow bad people. They are simply misguided, who, I'm sure, once the negative aspects of it are explained to them, will fully agree with how damaging it is.
I still stand by the fact that there's nothing wrong with the basic sentiment of wanting to help. It's just that doing it through visiting orphanages is a misguided way of going about it.
Now put your handbags away.
The gist of my post (sigh), was that while most of us can see the damage that visiting orphans does to the emotional well-being of the children, others don't. But that doesn't justify insinuating that they are somehow bad people. They are simply misguided, who, I'm sure, once the negative aspects of it are explained to them, will fully agree with how damaging it is.
I still stand by the fact that there's nothing wrong with the basic sentiment of wanting to help. It's just that doing it through visiting orphanages is a misguided way of going about it.
Now put your handbags away.
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The original poster was told in no uncertain terms the politics/money behind the orphan business, He was asking for advice regarding visiting an orphanage and was given a few links so that he could make his own mind up. Nobody is having a go at you? You have said visiting orphans is not a good idea so why are you annoyed ?
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Just give your spare cash to one of those trash collectors. At least they are working.
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Funny that post as i give all my 500 Riel notes to an elderly lady who always keeps the street clean near my home from early morning until evening. I pay her each week and she sometimes gets 40000 riel
She is always smiling and often is seen in her glad rags going to the Wat.
She is always smiling and often is seen in her glad rags going to the Wat.
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Yep. Totally understand that your experience varies - but I would suggest this may have been in the distant past (although correct me otherwise) as I've been on the ground in the past few years and it was a very different perspective for me.
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The reality is that the "extended family" in Cambodia welcomes children in when parents aren't available. I've been told that in some orphanages, the children go home on the weekends (it's like boarding school with food).
Certain heads of orphanages have been in Cambodia for many long years. I remember routinely running into one back when I was first in the Kingdom of Wonder, and low and behold, she is still there. I believe that there was an interesting technique for putting a disabled young man to sleep at night.
As a high school teacher, I'll mention that visitors aren't allowed in school unless they are planned guest speakers. It's too disruptive to the learning environment.
As for those without parents or extended family. they may have heard that they could get chosen for adoption, so it's a constant hope, excitement, and letdown: "Oh, darn--they don't want me."
If people want to help children in Cambodia, I think it's a better use of money to contribute a well-researched NGO or charity. Often those living in Cambodia know which are doing good work. I bet many of you currently in Cambodia have some opinions about who's doing great work to support Khmer children.
Don't visit orphanages. Children are too easily exploited by those who profit financially.
Certain heads of orphanages have been in Cambodia for many long years. I remember routinely running into one back when I was first in the Kingdom of Wonder, and low and behold, she is still there. I believe that there was an interesting technique for putting a disabled young man to sleep at night.
As a high school teacher, I'll mention that visitors aren't allowed in school unless they are planned guest speakers. It's too disruptive to the learning environment.
As for those without parents or extended family. they may have heard that they could get chosen for adoption, so it's a constant hope, excitement, and letdown: "Oh, darn--they don't want me."
If people want to help children in Cambodia, I think it's a better use of money to contribute a well-researched NGO or charity. Often those living in Cambodia know which are doing good work. I bet many of you currently in Cambodia have some opinions about who's doing great work to support Khmer children.
Don't visit orphanages. Children are too easily exploited by those who profit financially.
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Well, so she claimed at the time. To help him sleep.Cinnamoncat wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:17 am Certain heads of orphanages have been in Cambodia for many long years. I remember routinely running into one back when I was first in the Kingdom of Wonder, and low and behold, she is still there. I believe that there was an interesting technique for putting a disabled young man to sleep at night.
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