US meddeling in foreign countries

Yeah, that place out 'there'. Anything not really Cambodia related should go here.
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US meddeling in foreign countries

Ok i admit, this is nothing new. But worth having a closer look again:

Cambodia
I witnessed several US Presidents, Ambassadors and US foreign state secretaries lecturing Cambodia what it could/should do and NOT do. In many cases this was combined with a carrot/stick message.

It started here:
U.S. Embassy in Cambodia evacuated 1975

In Cambodia, the U.S. ambassador and his staff leave Phnom Penh when the U.S. Navy conducts its evacuation effort, Operation Eagle. On April 3, 1975, as the communist Khmer Rouge forces closed in for the final assault on the capital city, U.S. forces were put on alert for the impending embassy evacuation. An 11-man Marine element flew into the city to prepare for the arrival of the U.S. evacuation helicopters. On April 10, U.S. Ambassador Gunther Dean asked Washington that the evacuation begin no later than April 12.

At 8:50 a.m. on April 12, an Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Service HH-53 landed a four-man Air Force combat control team to coordinate the operation. Three minutes later, it guided in a Marine Corps helicopter with the first element of the Marine security force. Marine and Air Force helicopters then carried 276 evacuees–including 82 Americans, 159 Cambodians, and 35 foreign nationals–to the safety of U.S. Navy assault carriers in the Gulf of Thailand. By 10 a.m., the Marine contingency force, the advance 11-man element, and the combat control team had been evacuated without any casualties.

On April 16, the Lon Nol government surrendered to the Khmer Rouge, ending five years of war. With the surrender, the victorious Khmer Rouge evacuated Phnom Penh and set about to reorder Cambodian society, which resulted in a killing spree and the notorious “killing fields.” Eventually, hundreds of thousands of Cambodians were murdered or died from exhaustion, hunger, and disease.

The US also left a huge amount of unexploded amunition and thousands of Cambodian's killed by US Airstrikes and Bombs that could not be dropped over Vietnam due to bad weather in it's undeclared war against Cambodia. There was never any compensation for this but a bill presented by the current D.Trump administration to pay back loans made to the pre-khmer-rouge Gov. of Lon Nol..... including interest !! The US Gov. has absolutely zero Moral !

My own observation of how Cambodia was seen under the eye of several US Administrations started with Bill Clinton followed by George W.Bush, Ambassador Mussomeli,Hillary Clinton, Barak Obama,and finally the current Ambassador William Heidt. Again and again the Cambodian Gov. had to remind the US Gov. that Cambodia is a SOVEREIGN STATE and not some dependency like Guam, Puerto Rico etc.

LANGO or the Law to regulate the NGO Sector
The law was drafted over several times after many consultations with NGO that were never satisfied with the outcome even after almost 11 years of negotiations passed.

https://www.cambodiadaily.com/news/govt ... law-99994/

The reason was obvious to me. Many NGO were simply said a political submarine to trigger a Regime Change, favorable to the US plans to build a US NAVAL BASE at REAM near Sihanoukville. While the US Navy Commander tried to keep his personal hidden from the public eye some things still did'nt go unnoticed. For example the white mini busses carrying US Soldiers in their fatigue Uniforms to the Canadia Bank ATM and the higher rank Navy guy's which threw a TV set out of a Hotel Window near Ocheteal Beach. It seemed that about 80 US Soldiers remained in Cambodia after the Navy Ships set sail. This was later explained as a training crew for search and rescue missions of the Cambodian Navy. In reality though it was the first military foothold on Cambodian Soil after the Khmer Rouge left. Many more visits of the US Navy followed over the years. And.... the lecturing by the US Gov. increased.

When the first US Navy Ship anchored in Sihanoukville it was on a PEACE MISSION searching and retrieving remains of dead US Soldiers that had been killed and dumped on an island off Sihanoukville. A number of Helicopter sorties however headed north towards Phnom Penh while a single private Helicopter was sitting on the than deserted Otres Beach to take US mil. Personal to the island.
It was also a great oportunity for the US to map out plans for it's future military settlements in Cambodia.

Finally the Cambodian Gov. had enough and pulled the NGO Law through. As we know now that outcome had not had the catastrophic affect suggested by the NGO Sector. The country is thriving, income and standard of living is up and the new (CHINESE) friends pour in massive amount of investment helping to develop cambodia at a unbelievable speed. That still does not satisify the US Gov. which would rather have the USA compliant Opposition of which some even hold US Passports (Mu Socua for example) and it keeps up it's rants about Cambodia.

Cambodia is just an example of how US foreign Politics work to this very day.


Britain
The latest rant is that Britain does not fall for chlorine chicken etc. to be imported from the US. They (Britain) also don't want GM Food (genetically modified) or antibiotic loaded beef. The former best friend of Britain (USA) does not like such a stand against it's Make America Great Again politics which makes the US richer and the rest of the world poorer and more dependent.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... jay-rayner

Germany
The current US Gov. sees German Cars as a threat to it's national security !! It also wants to block the new Nordstream 2 Gas Pipeline from Russia to Germany in order to sell Germany it's much more expensive Liquid Gas transported by Ship. The US also has more than 35000 US Troops stationed in Germany. Korea and Japan are in similar dire straits with even larger US Bases in their countries.

China
We all start feeling about the fallout the new US Tariffs have with anything coming from China. The Chinese simply export too many goods to the US (and the rest of the world) and does not buy not enough from the US. The latest push from D.Trump is to have China buy more agricultural US goods (US Farmers seem to have an impact on Trump now). Americans can now expect price hikes for almost anything which of course makes (some) Americans great again.

Venezuela
You can think what you want about Venezuela's current crisis. We are looking at a situation were a elected government (Maduro) is challenged by a guy that was pretty much unknown to most Venezuelan's (Guaido). The first country to jump and accept Guaido as the new legit. President was again the USA Gov. Threats followed by badly camouflaged aid caravans and sea shipments which all have been seen as a Trojan Horse by the Maduro Gov. and repelled. The Invasion of Venezuela by US Troops is, as we know now a serious option of the US Gov. When that happens we can conclude that the rest of the world is equally at stake.

The list of countries threatened and intimidated by US foreign politics is way too long to list here but the rest of the world is hoping that the NORMAL People in the US will finally have their own REGIME CHANGE.

LETs make the WORLD GREAT AGAIN

latest news:
Bolton in Action:
http://en.freshnewsasia.com/index.php/e ... 02-36.html

US is concerned about Russia meddeling in it's internal affairs, how about US meddeling in Cambodia ?

http://en.freshnewsasia.com/index.php/e ... 08-55.html
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This is the age of the US empire. Like any other empire in history they will do anything to gain more and more power until they collapse and another empire is established. Change is for sure, but humans’ greed is granted.
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Cambodia, Great Britain, Germany, China and Venezuela have all interfered in other countries. Myopia can be cured !
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kaputt wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:36 pm The US also left a huge amount of unexploded amunition and thousands of Cambodian's killed by US Airstrikes and Bombs that could not be dropped over Vietnam due to bad weather in it's undeclared war against Cambodia. There was never any compensation for this but a bill presented by the current D.Trump administration to pay back loans made to the pre-khmer-rouge Gov. of Lon Nol..... including interest !! The US Gov. has absolutely zero Moral !
That thing about "bombs that weren't dropped on Vietnam but were instead dumped" is not something I've ever heard as an element in the war here. Everyone has heard of the "secret war", which most understand to be the undeclared bombing from 1969 to 1970 under the new Nixon administration, while in actuality the bombing had started long before, under Johnson. The main part of the bombing came later, and wasn't considered "secret" although the US public may not have been aware of the extent. It was in support of a legitimate Cambodian government who were trying to defend their country against PAVN/NLF/ KCP troops though, and was well appreciated at the time by all outside the "liberated areas".
So we still hear this nonsense about how the US bombed the "Ho Chi Minh Trail", which is true but most targets were far into the interior. The "Freedom Deal" bombings were not at all secret.
None of this matters because the money that Cambodia was asked to pay back had nothing to do with war materiel. It was money that had been spent on air-lifts of rice and other food to the beleaguered capital. While I am no fan of Trump it is ridiculous to blame him for these demands, he may have tried to use them as a leverage point but so have all the past Democratic/ Republican administrations. It was Jimmy Carter who first declared that the Khmer Rouge were the worst thing ever and then within weeks went on to let Cyrus Vance and Zbigniew Brzezinski give them the green light.
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on a more recent example of US meddeling - Germany

US Ambassador on his path to topple Germany's centrist government

German lawmakers want Trump’s ambassador kicked out - the public want's him to "Ami go Home" !

By David Gilbert Mar 20, 2019

A top German politician is calling for the expulsion of U.S. Ambassador Richard Grenell, who he says is acting like “a high commissioner of an occupying power.”

Grenell, a former Republican operative with a penchant for outrageous statements, has angered opposition lawmakers in Germany, who claim he is interfering in sovereign German matters.

Wolfgang Kubicki, the deputy chairman of the opposition Free Democrats (FDP), called on Germany’s foreign minister to “declare Richard Grenell persona non grata immediately.”

And he was not the only one criticizing the American ambassador.

“Grenell is a complete diplomatic failure. [He] damages trans-Atlantic relations with his repeated clumsy provocations,” Carsten Schneider, a lawmaker with the Social Democrats (SPD), told the German news agency DPA.

Grenell, 52, has done little to ingratiate himself to his host country since taking up the position in May 2018. Comments he made this week about Germany’s contributions to NATO led to Kubicki’s rebuke.

Donald Trump has clashed with Chancellor Angela Merkel repeatedly over Germany’s NATO spending, and it's not the only cause of tension between the two leaders. Merkel has also been spearheading an unprecedented summit between EU leaders and Chinese President Xi Jinping — and on Tuesday she said Berlin would not be following Washington’s demands that Chinese telecoms giant Huawei be banned from helping to build its 5G infrastructure.

In his remarks, Grenell criticized the budget of Germany’s finance minister and said it was unacceptable that the country was once again going to miss its NATO defense spending target.

Grenell said Germany’s plan to lower military spending to 1.25 percent of its gross domestic product by 2023 was a “worrisome signal to Germany's 28 NATO allies,” adding that it should stick to the 2 percent goal and “not run away.”

A member of Merkel's conservative alliance urged Grenell to show some restraint, reminding him that Germany meets many of its NATO obligations.

“If one keeps an overall view, many comments made are more coherent than those of the American ambassador, if he thinks he has to comment on something every week,” Michael Grosse-Brömer said.

Grenell should know better, given his seven years as U.S. spokesperson at the U.N., serving under then-U.N. ambassador John Bolton, Trump’s current National Security Adviser.

After leaving his U.N. post, Grenell founded his own communications company and was a regular contributor to Fox News. Grenell briefly acted as a spokesperson for Mitt Romney during his 2012 election campaign, becoming the first openly gay person to hold such a position.

Grenell was appointed in the hope his prior diplomatic experience would stand him in good stead, but this is far from the first time he's upset his hosts.

Over the weekend, in an interview with Breitbart, Grenell appeared to suggest he would work to topple Germany’s centrist government.

“I absolutely want to empower other conservatives throughout Europe, other leaders,” Grenell said. “I think there is a groundswell of conservative policies that are taking hold because of the failed policies of the left.”

In January, Grenell demanded Berlin stop development of Nord Stream 2, the gas pipeline being laid across the Baltic Sea to bring gas from Russia to Germany.

“We emphasize that companies involved in Russian energy exports are taking part in something that could prompt a significant risk of sanctions," the ambassador wrote in a letter sent to the German newspaper Bild Am Sonntag.

Grenell’s appointment was strongly opposed by Democrats, who highlighted his previous undiplomatic outbursts. Within hours of being appointed German ambassador, those fears appeared well-placed, when Grenell tweeted what was seen as a threat to German businesses.

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Imagine if someone else ruled the world, like Hitler, Russia, Japan or China. While the US has done a lot of bad things, any other option would be much worse.
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Every single ruler that tried to rule the world ended up in a pile of trash (historically)

So why not let a Computer rule the world. Google and F...book know everything about everyone already. We wouldn't even have to vote anymore !
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75 years after D-Day it's time for Germany to liberate itself

If it was only so easy. With more than 35.000 US Troops still stationed in Germany the US is the only Occupying Force that still operates in Germany. There seems to be no way to get rid of them.
In the past 2 years German Gov. has finally find it's own voice/choice to do what's best for Germany (not necessarily for the US). That triggerd threats by US Ambassador that those Company's working with Iran for example or participate in the Nord Stream 2 Gas Pipeline would face sanctions. Sanctions seem to be the favorite tool of the US Government to force countries into submission. The results you can see in North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba etc. Citizens of these countries face starvation, lack of medical supplies etc. Why bomb these countries when you can starve them to death ?

More info on "America First" policy: (carefull this contains a russia today contribution !)
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/454855-dday-ge ... liberated/
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