Agreed. The Dream is a good bike, but it's horribly overpriced for the simple fact they know Cambodians will pay more. It gained traction in the late 90s and then they got hooked on them as they viewed them better than anything else. Sort of like Apple with its sheeple and so on. Virtually all bikes (and bicycles!) switched to discs back in the 90s. Drum brake technology is like 100 years old. Being able to stop quickly if needed is important.Kammekor wrote:In 2010 a new Honda Dream would cost you just under 1.500 USD. Now you pay 2.380 for the same.
Inflation is through the roof if you use the 'Dream index'.
I like the Dream too, but I will never buy one. The Wave with the disc brake gives you a similar engine and because it's nearly 50% cheaper it'll give you more bang for your bucks, and spare are available everywhere as well. Yamaha Spark is a good competitor as well, although spares can be more difficult to obtain.
Anyone able to squeeze 50 km out of a liter of gas on a Dream either:
- weighs under 10 kg
- did the run on a special track with a prepared motorbike in the most economic mode. In reality 1-30 is more realistic I think.
Bought my Wave brand new about three years ago ($1200 or $1250, I forget) and have over 27 000km on it. Zero issues and yes, it'll easily carry two up Kulen. You think the extra 15cc would make the difference? All these scooters are geared fairly low. There's certainly a difference between 120 and 110cc, but it's negligible under most circumstances.
When/if I sell this one, I'd probably consider a Yamaha. Parts availability isn't a huge issue as the only things you really need are maybe air filter and spark plug. Wearables such as inner tubes, brake pads and so on are usually easy to find regardless of the brand. Most of these bikes are rugged and can handle a lot, even the ones built in Thailand or Vietnam. They're still built in Honda factories... The CRF250 is assembled and partially built in Thailand and is exported worldwide. I would want Japanese for a big bike, but for a low compression scooter that can run on canola oil, I don't see why you'd worry.
Oh yeah, and because of its popularity, a Dream is a bit of a thief magnet. Regarding resale value, I've noticed a big shift in the last few years. Second hand bikes hold their value way less than they used to, regardless of make. Anyone else notice this?
Just wanted to be clear for those who may not know, none of the Hondas, Yamahas, or Suzukis here are "Japanese", meaning Japanese built or manufactured. Hondas are assembled and partially manufactured in Cambodia, Suzukis are knockdowns from Thailand assembled here, same for Yamahas. The only Japanese made bikes besides some "big bikes" are the Super Cubs, except the new version which is made entirely in Thailand.
I've noticed too (I've been in Cambodia 9 years). I bought a Cub when I first got here for $1200 and sold it for $1200, but that same Cub would be worth $300-400 now. Even my Wave 125 w/40,000 on it. New it was $2k in 2017 but it's probably worth only $1.2-1.3 realistically if I wanted to sell it.
Last year they were $2,300 something.
They have a huge following worldwide and early Cubs/Passport in US pre square headlamp go for silly money. Even more for 6V ones!
The Daelim is a licences copy of the C100 (might be C102, not 100%) so there’s no wonder the Dream is a must have.
Dream - Lexus - IPhone - LV bag - HE watch. Inspirational.
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