just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by timmydownawell » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:34 pm

Seriously, when he was found not guilty, who actually believed it?
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by clutchcargo » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:46 pm

xandreu wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:12 pm
The only thing I find strange about the whole saga is that there are still many people who refuse to believe that MJ was a nonce.
I'm sure there are lots of theories why this is so..however, the Clutchcargo one..for what it's worth is:

In short, people wanted to believe the fairytale.

The story of the Jackson Five..the abusive father..Michael was the youngest and had the best voice.

He made good later and was very talented. He became so successful with the Thriller album etc and bought the Neverland Ranch along the way. Turned it into a dream like kid's amusement park with rides, a zoo, train tracks and game arcade.

People started to believe that because of his controlling father and fame, his childhood had been stolen from him and what he was trying to do was recreate it with Neverland. And that sort of extended to justifying him wanting child friends...sorta like he was a child trapped in a man's body a la Pee Wee Herman.

The 'Wacko Jacko' noise made sense with some people on the grounds that MJ was a bit strange on account of his troubled childhood and the effects of all that fame.. And regardless, what a great entertainer he is..





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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Sidewalker » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:12 pm

The problem in this case are the fans. They usually wear blinkers when it comes to negative, which is told about their idol. That makes an honest discussion impossible.
There are people who cannot imagine that there are other ways of life than their own life. :facepalm:
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by phuketrichard » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:20 pm

imagine this took place in PP
A 30 year old farang taking young boys into his room and into his bed
aple be on to him in 5 sec's
and NOBODY would think he was a child trapped in a mans body

MJ was lucky, he had the Best defense $$ could buy
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by clutchcargo » Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:28 pm

phuketrichard wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:20 pm
imagine this took place in PP
A 30 year old farang taking young boys into his room and into his bed
aple be on to him in 5 sec's
and NOBODY would think he was a child trapped in a mans body

MJ was lucky, he had the Best defense $$ could buy
Agreed.. look at the flack stylish got on here when she took that teenage boy home.

But also as other posters have mentioned, he was an idol, almost god like..he could do no wrong..
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by xandreu » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:40 pm

Khartoum wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:22 pm
Didn't we all know this 20 years ago? There was that terrible 'joke' back then-

What time is bedtime at Neverland?

When the big hand touches the little hand.
Ours was always - Why does Michael Jackson always have cheese on his cock? Because kids'll do anything for Dairylea.

I guess I'm showing my age and nationality with that one!

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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Jcml19 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:54 am

Mj is definitely not conventional.

Imo it's definitely odd the things he did. Whether he committed a crime, ill leave it up to the justice team.

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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by cptrelentless » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:38 am

Why are there some of them who say he didn't bum them, like Haim and Culkin. If he was a full on pederast any little arse would be fodder, surely. Does pose some questions. This is why Savile had himself encased in concrete.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by Anthony's Weiner » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:59 am

cptrelentless wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:38 am
Why are there some of them who say he didn't bum them, like Haim and Culkin. If he was a full on pederast any little arse would be fodder, surely. Does pose some questions. This is why Savile had himself encased in concrete.
I can imagine that it takes a lot of courage for a grown man to stand up and say he was ass raped.

Does a full on rapist rape every woman he meets?

I am not sure what question it poses to you, but to me, the question is why would any man make excuses or apologize for a child rapist.
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Re: just watched Part 1 of "leaving Neverland"

Post by phuketrichard » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:24 am

cptrelentless wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:38 am
Why are there some of them who say he didn't bum them, like Haim and Culkin. If he was a full on pederast any little arse would be fodder, surely. Does pose some questions. This is why Savile had himself encased in concrete.
A few reasons come to mind;
The two guys that eventually came out in the movie, they were in love with him and wanted to protect him at any costs.
Many sex crimes go unreported for the fear of being stimgized with it..Shame
Dont want to be admit to being a victim
Denial

MJ was a classic pedo, he kept changing boys as he only liked a certain age.

He was acquitted TWICE, cause the jurors of his peers didn't believe he could do what the kid said he did and he had a hell of a defense team


MJ had a cult status and it didn't help he kept saying, "i love all children and I'd never do anything to hurt one"
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