Free Masonry Survivor Testimony.

RickyBobby · Post by **RickyBobby** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 4:04 am

Thoughts?

Spigzy · Post by **Spigzy** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:51 am

Too bloody long was my first thought.

Child abuse in an organisation run with a hierarchy of men isn't all that surprising - replace Freemasons with Catholics, Protestants, Muslim, Buddhist, bla bla, same story. I don't think it is a reflection on those religions in general or even Freemasonry in this instance, just a combination of a bunch of sick & twisted sods who believe, when combined, they have influence & power beyond the law & will never be caught.

Anthony's Weiner · Post by **Anthony's Weiner** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:27 am

I have been a Freemason for roughly 30 years. I have never seen other Freemason's dress in Nazi uniforms although with 6 million Masons worldwide it is certainly possible.

The fact that it is her father and his uncle that abused her seems to be secondary to her as if the familial tie was not the primary link.

The Shriner's organization ( you must be a Mason to become a Shriner) raises over 3 million USD a day for their 22 hospitals that provide free medical aid to children. The Shriner's Hospital Charity is rated 95.61% by Charity Navigator. Total Assets of the charity exceed 5 billion USD. I can not comment on the ladies experience from seeing a 15-minute video clip but I do not believe that her claim is in any way representative of Freemasonary

StroppyChops · Post by **StroppyChops** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:02 pm

Anthony's Weiner wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:27 am I have been a Freemason for roughly 30 years.

My brother's godfather is the grandest of grand poohbahs in his part of the world - while I can mention that in public, he is most unlikely to.

Anthony's Weiner · Post by **Anthony's Weiner** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:58 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:02 pm
Anthony's Weiner wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:27 am I have been a Freemason for roughly 30 years.

My brother's godfather is the grandest of grand poohbahs in his part of the world - while I can mention that in public, he is most unlikely to.

In Europe Freemason's tend to be elite and wealthy, in the UK it is very secretive, in America and Canada it is much less so. 1/3 of the US Presidents were Freemasons, the last one was Gerald Ford. In the UK lodges often have members that belong to a single profession, unheard of in America. I can understand people's concern about a lodge full of policemen or accountants. Italy had problems when there was a lodge of politicians that were devious. Freemasonry is banned in most Arab states, was banned in the eastern bloc and 80,000 to 100,000 were killed by the Nazis for their membership.

markd · Post by **markd** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:55 pm

i worked for a british company & there was the occasional rumor that a mason lodge existed amongst the brit employees & most of the mid to upper level management positions were held by them.

it seemed plausible as some promotions that took place were for recent arrivals that seemed to be instantly very friendly with management whereas others that had been hanging in for a promotion much longer were overlooked

RickyBobby · Post by **RickyBobby** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:01 am

I cant form an opinion. If the story is true, it is some twisted shit. If it is not true, I cannot imagine how someone could weave such a thing and believe it. There have been a lot of things in history that have prevailed, only because the truth was so impossible to perceive. Take the KR for example. People couldn't comprehend or imagine how something like that is even possible.

I don't want to get all Alex Jones in my life, but this kind of thing is disturbing. I cannot resolve it in my mind. So it gets pushed aside.

Spigzy · Post by **Spigzy** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:57 am

Anthony's Weiner wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:58 pm
StroppyChops wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:02 pm
Anthony's Weiner wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:27 am I have been a Freemason for roughly 30 years.

My brother's godfather is the grandest of grand poohbahs in his part of the world - while I can mention that in public, he is most unlikely to.
In Europe Freemason's tend to be elite and wealthy, in the UK it is very secretive, in America and Canada it is much less so. 1/3 of the US Presidents were Freemasons, the last one was Gerald Ford. In the UK lodges often have members that belong to a single profession, unheard of in America. I can understand people's concern about a lodge full of policemen or accountants. Italy had problems when there was a lodge of politicians that were devious. Freemasonry is banned in most Arab states, was banned in the eastern bloc and 80,000 to 100,000 were killed by the Nazis for their membership.

You can add Jacques de Molay (& chums) to that list, the last Grand Master of the Knight's Templar; most likely the face of the Turin Shroud, and the origin of Friday 13th (1307) when he, and masons across Europe, were arrested, tried & executed. Burned at the stake in Paris for the sin of lending King Philip IV of France a heck of lot of money to sustain his wars. Medieval Europe, what a shit fight!

baloney999 · Post by **baloney999** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:20 am

This story seems just too laced with cliche to be true. If it is a footnote story to a headline of "child cages found in Freemason's lodge and evidence of torture/murder/cannibalism", then you could take it at face value. As it is, it seems more like a sick work of fiction that is most likely born of urban legend than any semblance of truth. Either that or this woman genuinely believes it and needs some serious help.

frank lee bent · Post by **frank lee bent** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:29 am

utter nonsense and anyone who believes it needs a course in logic and critical thinking.
that woman's "repressed memories" are the product of a deranged mind.

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