Westerners who are Psychopaths
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Re: Westerners who are Psychopaths
nuzen wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:41 pmYes, ok, there's your up vote. Think what you wish about it. I automatically up vote here, as I do on other social media, as a way of saying "Thank you for commenting, I read your post and appreciate that you replied."siliconlife wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:18 pmLOL. Can I have another upvote please, OP?fax wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:34 pmSomeone who starts threads but is too paranoid to answer questions yet compulsively upvotes everything said.siliconlife wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:12 am Since this isn't a panel of psychologists, I think a good definition for "psychopath" for this particular thread could be
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Re: Westerners who are Psychopaths
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Re: Westerners who are Psychopaths
alvin.dark wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:41 am For serial murderers and violent people I am not sure how to identify them. I get worried when I meet people who have violent imagery in their conversations for no reason. When a person is overly secretive and never talks about their work, I wonder why. From what I have read, have your guard up around people that have excessive charm and are immediately likable. While they may be perfectly good people, charm and likability are also weapons of dangerous people. These are characteristics that dangerous people work hard to cultivate and the rest of us usually don't have the time for.
The killer I knew, was scary. He was volatile and violent. It seemed like he could attack anyone at anytime. It was easy to detect him because he wanted everyone to be afraid of him. Some other dangerous guys also seem to want me to know how dangerous they are.
For a scammer I think detection is different (although the killer was also a scammer): I tried to learn the tricks of an apparently non-violent scammer by asking him to use his methods to try to scam me (I knew he was a scammer because he loved to tell about his scamming victories.)
He had so many tricks that I doubt I could ever learn enough to detect all of them in a real situation. It was good to know how he thought, but I concluded that we can not outwit a scammer who puts enough effort into finding our weak points, and then using them to scam or coerce us.
(Some dirty tricks are just too dirty to defend against. It's like avoiding an accident. Sometimes you can't. We have to hope for a certain amount of luck in life.)
However, I noticed that when he started pushing me to do something I would not normally do, my emotions went up and down in a way that was different than normal for me. He triggered feelings of greed, jealousy, etc. While I can't know all his tricks, I can be aware of when my emotions are changing in ways that are not normal for me.
By getting me into a state of intense greed, jealousy, etc., I am more likely to make a bad decision. So, I try to detect danger by being aware of unusual emotional patterns in myself. Something is going on, and it is being caused by this guy. Why?
The scammer's ability to create these emotions serves a second purpose for him: If he can get me to be so greedy, jealous, vengeful, etc. that I do something wrong, then he can rationalize scamming me because my bad behavior proves that I am a bad person and I deserve to be hurt. So he can pre-rationalize his crime against me.
I am not sure if this guy has a conscience, but he does need a rationalization to do bad things. I know that he wants to appear as a good person and to avoid embarrassment.
He is a nihilist. He has no purpose or meaning in life. For him, it seemed like people were to be manipulated and hurt for fun. This "game" is the only relationship he could have with the world ... maybe because he is not capable of empathy.
Again, he is initially likable, charming and fun.
He formed his own value system which goes against the values of what we are taught or are that we are born with (such as a sense of fair play). He does not respect people who worked hard to get what they have. He respects people who got a lot without doing much work. So he built his value system to justify his life. This value system makes his life heroic and makes it easier for him to commit his crimes.
As a result. he says his one of his biggest concerns is: How am I going to get through the next 30 years when I know that life is meaningless? How am I going to get through the next day?
What is left to do for him? Even sensual pleasures eventually lose their meaning when there is no purpose to life. And, tormenting people is not as much fun as it used to be.
It is exhausting for me to talk to him because I constantly had to have my defenses up ... not so much for the danger of scams, but for the unrelenting passive-aggressive attacks which gratify him. After a two hour conversation, it takes me a day to recover. Since he can't scam me, he can at least get the gratification of these attacks.
In the end, I avoid him (and possible danger) because it is too damaging to spend time with him (for me anyway). But for a while I learned a lot from him and it was interesting.
He is likable and does have friends. But, his long term friends are other scammers that he works with ... and those being scammed ... who can sometimes be the other scammers he works with.
Wow! Excellent insightful post, as in:
"When a person is overly secretive and never talks about their work, I wonder why. From what I have read, have your guard up around people that have excessive charm and are immediately likable. While they may be perfectly good people, charm and likability are also weapons of dangerous people. These are characteristics that dangerous people work hard to cultivate and the rest of us usually don't have the time for."
Would I be correct in assuming you first wrote that elsewhere, and another time, and mostly copied and pasted it here?
Thanks,
Joe
Re: Westerners who are Psychopaths
Question everything but your gut feeling.
I just walk away from anything remotely belligerent, anti-social, over enthusiastic flattery etc... There certainly comes a point where you can really only be interested in those who speak the same 'language' as yourself.
I just walk away from anything remotely belligerent, anti-social, over enthusiastic flattery etc... There certainly comes a point where you can really only be interested in those who speak the same 'language' as yourself.
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Re: Westerners who are Psychopaths
I think a lot are Disabled US Veterans with PTSD.
For the simple fact is that they have a monthly compensation from the military for having been injured while in the line of duty.
For the simple fact is that they have a monthly compensation from the military for having been injured while in the line of duty.
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Re: Westerners who are Psychopaths
As opposed to what?SaigonBilly wrote:I think a lot are Disabled US Veterans with PTSD.
For the simple fact is that they have a monthly compensation from the military for having been injured while in the line of duty.
That America should give them nothing while injured protecting our freedoms?
PTSD is caused by the military giving them compensation?
So if soldiers are injured, the government should just kick them out into the street and thus solve the PTSD problem?
I don’t get it.
Re: Westerners who are Psychopaths
Your reading comprehension0 skills are shocking todaynewkidontheblock wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:44 amAs opposed to what?SaigonBilly wrote:I think a lot are Disabled US Veterans with PTSD.
For the simple fact is that they have a monthly compensation from the military for having been injured while in the line of duty.
That America should give them nothing while injured protecting our freedoms?
PTSD is caused by the military giving them compensation?
So if soldiers are injured, the government should just kick them out into the street and thus solve the PTSD problem?
I don’t get it.
Despite what angsta states, it’s clear from reading through his posts that angsta supports the free FreePalestine movement.
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Re: Westerners who are Psychopaths
Cambodia is full of Psychopaths, and not just Westerners.
It only stands to reason however that people that within a population of people who choose to espouse their homeland, have messed things up in one way or another, view the world differently, are adventure seekers, have less close relationships and whatever the reasons may be that makes a person choose Cambodia of all places will result in that sample having a higher incidence of psychopathy amongst all the other disorders and labels one might have.
It only stands to reason however that people that within a population of people who choose to espouse their homeland, have messed things up in one way or another, view the world differently, are adventure seekers, have less close relationships and whatever the reasons may be that makes a person choose Cambodia of all places will result in that sample having a higher incidence of psychopathy amongst all the other disorders and labels one might have.
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Re: Westerners who are Psychopaths
No, I'm the OP, and I meant Psychopath, as in Expats who threaten me, wanting to kill me, or have me dead. In all my years before, I never met such naked evil intent.StroppyChops wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:44 pmI'm wondering if the OP actually means sociopath.clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:54 am OP- what is your understanding of a 'psychopath'?
Coz googling the meaning of it gives a number of different interpretations/definitions ranging from mild to serious..
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Re: Westerners who are Psychopaths
There you go! Now that you've defined "psychopath", we actually know what this whole thread is all about!nuzen wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:56 amNo, I'm the OP, and I meant Psychopath, as in Expats who threaten me, wanting to kill me, or have me dead. In all my years before, I never met such naked evil intent.StroppyChops wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:44 pmI'm wondering if the OP actually means sociopath.clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:54 am OP- what is your understanding of a 'psychopath'?
Coz googling the meaning of it gives a number of different interpretations/definitions ranging from mild to serious..
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