Is it normal for electric shower heaters not to be grounded?

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Re: Is it normal for electric shower heaters not to be grounded?

Post by cptrelentless » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:12 am

Cam Nivag wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:52 pm
cptrelentless wrote:
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Those Panasonics are 3.5kW, so you need a 16A feed on them. The Cambodians always wire up their houses with 10A uninsulated cabling (1.5mm2 if you're lucky). So it will trip the switch if they've put the usual 10A breaker in. They generally wire it up in spoke fashion, rather than a ring, so their'll be a spaghetti nest of cables in your main fuse box. One of those will be the shower feed.
Yeah, the landlord came back with an electrician and he changed it from a 10A breaker to 16A. When the work was complete, the electrician and landlord left, without ever checking that it worked.

It didn't. I went from having power to the electric heater for 60 seconds at a time to having no power at all to it after the "fix."

Called again and they came back and fixed it again and now it's working and doesn't trip the breaker and hasn't electrocuted me yet.
Just have to wait for the wires to catch fire now. Try to minimise the amount of time you're in there.
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Re: Is it normal for electric shower heaters not to be grounded?

Post by timmydownawell » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:00 am

cptrelentless wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:12 am
Cam Nivag wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:52 pm
cptrelentless wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:26 pm
Those Panasonics are 3.5kW, so you need a 16A feed on them. The Cambodians always wire up their houses with 10A uninsulated cabling (1.5mm2 if you're lucky). So it will trip the switch if they've put the usual 10A breaker in. They generally wire it up in spoke fashion, rather than a ring, so their'll be a spaghetti nest of cables in your main fuse box. One of those will be the shower feed.
Yeah, the landlord came back with an electrician and he changed it from a 10A breaker to 16A. When the work was complete, the electrician and landlord left, without ever checking that it worked.

It didn't. I went from having power to the electric heater for 60 seconds at a time to having no power at all to it after the "fix."

Called again and they came back and fixed it again and now it's working and doesn't trip the breaker and hasn't electrocuted me yet.
Just have to wait for the wires to catch fire now. Try to minimise the amount of time you're in there.
Yeah, you might get this result:

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Re: Is it normal for electric shower heaters not to be grounded?

Post by StroppyChops » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:04 pm

timmydownawell wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:00 am
Yeah, you might get this result:

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Still 99%, never been dropped or repaired. PM for price.
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Re: Is it normal for electric shower heaters not to be grounded?

Post by Duncan » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:07 pm

StroppyChops wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:04 pm
timmydownawell wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:00 am
Yeah, you might get this result:

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FREE

Still 99%, never been dropped or repaired. PM for price.

I wouldn't touch that with a bar of soap.
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Re: Is it normal for electric shower heaters not to be grounded?

Post by timmydownawell » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:19 pm

Duncan wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:07 pm
StroppyChops wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:04 pm
timmydownawell wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:00 am
Yeah, you might get this result:

Image
FREE

Still 99%, never been dropped or repaired. PM for price.
I wouldn't touch that with a bar of soap.
This is at a guest house I have stayed at. In one room I had, the shower was connected with some very lightweight wire - like speaker wire. I didn't dare use it, and took a photo and showed the guy at reception and actually told him "this will cause a fire" (it wasn't even the same room as this pic).

They're currently doing some renovations. New LED lighting and upgraded power points etc, but still nothing is earthed of course.
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Re: Is it normal for electric shower heaters not to be grounded?

Post by alexvanlaar » Mon May 20, 2019 8:45 pm

Duncan wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:42 am
[quote="Borum-Ex frm TOForum"

And always wear flip-flops when showering!

And best to not get them or your feet wet .
[/quote]

... and how you do this?
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Re: Is it normal for electric shower heaters not to be grounded?

Post by DaveG » Tue May 21, 2019 10:40 am

alexvanlaar wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 8:45 pm
Duncan wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:42 am
[quote="Borum-Ex frm TOForum"

And always wear flip-flops when showering!

And best to not get them or your feet wet .
... and how you do this?
[/quote]

Take a shower in one of these,

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Simple !!!!
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