Cham Script in the Wild | Where have you spotted it?
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Re: Cham Script in the Wild | Where have you spotted it?
Crazy script, eh? I knew a PhD candidate who lived here who could read and write that. /boggle
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Re: Cham Script in the Wild | Where have you spotted it?
Kampoochie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:24 pm I've only seen Cham in actual use once: on a sign at Phnom Oudoung.
If you're unfamiliar with the language and script, here's what their writing looks like — https://www.omniglot.com/writing/cham.htm — and here's some info on it — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cham_alphabet.
The Cambodian variant of Cham is Western Cham, the Eastern Cham apparently being Vietnamese and relatively much more prevalent.
I haven't been to Kampong Cham, so I suspect this would be where you'd see clusters of it in actual use, primarily.
Anyone spotted it around PP? I know many Cham people live north up the Mekong in Kandal.
Any other examples of it you've spotted would be greatly appreciated, even if it's just a hazy memory and a location.
Re: Cham Script in the Wild | Where have you spotted it?
Sorry, forgot to say. The above picture is on 178, near the corner of 19.
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Re: Cham Script in the Wild | Where have you spotted it?
That is just normal Khmer in a squiggly fontbobsboots wrote:Kampoochie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:24 pm I've only seen Cham in actual use once: on a sign at Phnom Oudoung.
If you're unfamiliar with the language and script, here's what their writing looks like — https://www.omniglot.com/writing/cham.htm — and here's some info on it — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cham_alphabet.
The Cambodian variant of Cham is Western Cham, the Eastern Cham apparently being Vietnamese and relatively much more prevalent.
I haven't been to Kampong Cham, so I suspect this would be where you'd see clusters of it in actual use, primarily.
Anyone spotted it around PP? I know many Cham people live north up the Mekong in Kandal.
Any other examples of it you've spotted would be greatly appreciated, even if it's just a hazy memory and a location.
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Re: Cham Script in the Wild | Where have you spotted it?
That's stylized Khmer, no? It does have more of the look of Cham to it, for sure.bobsboots wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:33 amKampoochie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:24 pm I've only seen Cham in actual use once: on a sign at Phnom Oudoung.
If you're unfamiliar with the language and script, here's what their writing looks like — https://www.omniglot.com/writing/cham.htm — and here's some info on it — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cham_alphabet.
The Cambodian variant of Cham is Western Cham, the Eastern Cham apparently being Vietnamese and relatively much more prevalent.
I haven't been to Kampong Cham, so I suspect this would be where you'd see clusters of it in actual use, primarily.
Anyone spotted it around PP? I know many Cham people live north up the Mekong in Kandal.
Any other examples of it you've spotted would be greatly appreciated, even if it's just a hazy memory and a location.
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Re: Cham Script in the Wild | Where have you spotted it?
Yeah i just posted that too, but yeah does like it has some influence from itKampoochie wrote:That's stylized Khmer, no? It does have more of the look of Cham to it, for sure.bobsboots wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:33 amKampoochie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:24 pm I've only seen Cham in actual use once: on a sign at Phnom Oudoung.
If you're unfamiliar with the language and script, here's what their writing looks like — https://www.omniglot.com/writing/cham.htm — and here's some info on it — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cham_alphabet.
The Cambodian variant of Cham is Western Cham, the Eastern Cham apparently being Vietnamese and relatively much more prevalent.
I haven't been to Kampong Cham, so I suspect this would be where you'd see clusters of it in actual use, primarily.
Anyone spotted it around PP? I know many Cham people live north up the Mekong in Kandal.
Any other examples of it you've spotted would be greatly appreciated, even if it's just a hazy memory and a location.
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Re: Cham Script in the Wild | Where have you spotted it?
That type is KH Sombor Preykuk. Not sure if the Chams were around Kampong Thom? http://www.selapa.net/khmerfonts/fontinfo.php?font=1433Jamie_Lambo wrote:Yeah i just posted that too, but yeah does like it has some influence from itKampoochie wrote:That's stylized Khmer, no? It does have more of the look of Cham to it, for sure.bobsboots wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:33 amKampoochie wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:24 pm I've only seen Cham in actual use once: on a sign at Phnom Oudoung.
If you're unfamiliar with the language and script, here's what their writing looks like — https://www.omniglot.com/writing/cham.htm — and here's some info on it — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cham_alphabet.
The Cambodian variant of Cham is Western Cham, the Eastern Cham apparently being Vietnamese and relatively much more prevalent.
I haven't been to Kampong Cham, so I suspect this would be where you'd see clusters of it in actual use, primarily.
Anyone spotted it around PP? I know many Cham people live north up the Mekong in Kandal.
Any other examples of it you've spotted would be greatly appreciated, even if it's just a hazy memory and a location.
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I'm in Kampong Cham now, passing through dozens of villages. Very little signage whatsoever in Cham villages. Where there is, it's in Khmer, advertising their bull. On the mosques, it's Arabic and English transliteration of Arabic,and very rarely, some Khmer.
The old Cham script is basically extinct, still used only in some villages, from what I've been told.
Re: Cham Script in the Wild | Where have you spotted it?
I have been talking to people, and Cham script is still used in Cambodia.
However, it is only used for internal correspondence between Cham people, as other people dont understand it.
There are some Cham villages where it is taught. Some Cham people learn it.
I dont know of any public signs using it.
If you are serious it can be found.
You could go to a village and meet people who read, write and speak a language you dont understand.
These people also speak Khmer. Many also read and write Arabic, but most dont know enough Arabic to have a conversation with an Arab. A few also learn English. Very few speak English well.
However, it is only used for internal correspondence between Cham people, as other people dont understand it.
There are some Cham villages where it is taught. Some Cham people learn it.
I dont know of any public signs using it.
Why your interest in this?Kampoochie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:55 am Finding a Cham village in Cambodia where Cham — the script, not just the spoken language — is predominant, that's a holy grail of mine.
If you are serious it can be found.
You could go to a village and meet people who read, write and speak a language you dont understand.
These people also speak Khmer. Many also read and write Arabic, but most dont know enough Arabic to have a conversation with an Arab. A few also learn English. Very few speak English well.
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Re: Cham Script in the Wild | Where have you spotted it?
I'm hyperbolizing a bit (a lot) by calling it my holy grail — agreed, if I cared enough, I'd have already found someone using it. I don't have any scholarly purpose to do so, though. I worked as a designer for a long time so I have an interest in advertising, vernacular signage, and non-Latin scripts, especially ones like Western Cham that are extremely rare.explorer wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:45 pm I have been talking to people, and Cham script is still used in Cambodia.
However, it is only used for internal correspondence between Cham people, as other people dont understand it.
There are some Cham villages where it is taught. Some Cham people learn it.
I dont know of any public signs using it.
Why your interest in this?Kampoochie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:55 am Finding a Cham village in Cambodia where Cham — the script, not just the spoken language — is predominant, that's a holy grail of mine.
If you are serious it can be found.
You could go to a village and meet people who read, write and speak a language you dont understand.
These people also speak Khmer. Many also read and write Arabic, but most dont know enough Arabic to have a conversation with an Arab. A few also learn English. Very few speak English well.
Thanks for looking into this and the info you've found out.
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