Cambodian clemency sends the right message to democracies around the world

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Cambodian clemency sends the right message to democracies around the world

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I have reserved comment on this case for the simple reason that I figured that flying unauthorized drones around politically-charged crowds at election time is a very dodgy thing to do (almost certainly) anywhere, and I've got no idea of where the line lies in terms of legal standing.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45602616

Seeing that he was pardoned is very welcome news though, and a step in the right direction for release of other 'political figures'... let's hope that this starts a trend for those being held on less contentious grounds (who also happen to have massive global support).

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I would imagine that the effect on democracies around the world as a result of this case is the square root of zero.

There are far more important agendas for democratic governments to look at such as where the elected members can stick there snouts next.

A pardon for an Australian trouble maker is hardly going to bring down walls.
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britscienceteacher wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:18 pm I have reserved comment on this case for the simple reason that I figured that flying unauthorized drones around politically-charged crowds at election time is a very dodgy thing to do (almost certainly) anywhere, and I've got no idea of where the line lies in terms of legal standing.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45602616

Seeing that he was pardoned is very welcome news though, and a step in the right direction for release of other 'political figures'... let's hope that this starts a trend for those being held on less contentious grounds (who also happen to have massive global support).

https://depositphotos.com/6029646/stock ... iches.html
Delusional.

HE is following exactly the same pattern that many other countries have followed after a tribal or ethnic civil war. After the war ends, the leader of the country, usually from the winning tribe or ethnic group, refuses to give up power, and becomes increasingly violent and authoritarian, using as an excuse that peaceful protests or negative news articles can turn into a new civil war. This excuse provides justification for mass slaughter, rape, torture, mass jailings, mutilations, and so forth. I've described this behavior in Bashar al-Assad in Syria, who has gone to the extent of using Sarin gas and barrel bombs packed with explosives and metal and laced with chlorine gas onto civilian neighborhoods and markets in order to kill as many women and children as possible. Other leaders that I've described exhibiting this type of behavior include Paul Biya in Cameroon, Pierre Nkurunziza in Burundi, Paul Kagame in Rwanda, Yoweri Museveni in Uganda, Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe, and Joseph Kabila in DRC.

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It was a royal pardon, was it not?

Mercy from the hands of great power inspires trust and respect. This contrasts from ruthless clubs elsewhere, which only attempt to inspire fear.
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dont think kow will turn into syria though, firstly HE is still in wealth accumulation mode, secondly kow is in ASEAN, unless kow suddenly withdraws fm ASEAN then that signals big problem
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britscienceteacher wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:30 am It was a royal pardon, was it not?

Mercy from the hands of great power inspires trust and respect. This contrasts from ruthless clubs elsewhere, which only attempt to inspire fear.
royal pardon means nothing in kow, puppet master hv been quite obvious all along, he intentionally made it obvious to show who the real master of this country is
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bolueeleh wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:38 am dont think kow will turn into syria though, firstly HE is still in wealth accumulation mode, secondly kow is in ASEAN, unless kow suddenly withdraws fm ASEAN then that signals big problem
Cambodia is in a generational awakening era and while there may be some violence it won’t amount to much. There may be some when HE dies as the ensuing power struggle may cause problems. The winner will be decided by China of course. And Cambodia will never leave ASEAN as they are voting by proxy for China.
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IraHayes wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 8:49 am
bolueeleh wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:38 am dont think kow will turn into syria though, firstly HE is still in wealth accumulation mode, secondly kow is in ASEAN, unless kow suddenly withdraws fm ASEAN then that signals big problem
Cambodia is in a generational awakening era and while there may be some violence it won’t amount to much. There may be some when HE dies as the ensuing power struggle may cause problems. The winner will be decided by China of course. And Cambodia will never leave ASEAN as they are voting by proxy for China.
tbh china never needed that much of ASEAN approval on south china seas issues, juz enuff to make its member stop nagging, china hv been working on tat issue fm multiple fronts

back to kow, if HE wanted to leave the dynasty to his son, he knows he gonna need lots of dough, to consolidate n for ditching, juz in case, 10,000 bodyguards needs salaries, 4000 generals need pie :ROFL:
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IraHayes wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:39 pmI've described this behavior in Bashar al-Assad in Syria, who has gone to the extent of using Sarin gas and barrel bombs packed with explosives and metal and laced with chlorine gas onto civilian neighborhoods and markets in order to kill as many women and children as possible. Other leaders that I've described exhibiting this type of behavior include Paul Biya in Cameroon, Pierre Nkurunziza in Burundi, Paul Kagame in Rwanda, Yoweri Museveni in Uganda, Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe, and Joseph Kabila in DRC.
I wonder if he ever wrote about white phosphorous, babies being burned, nurses being shot by snipers, prisoners being executed in Palestine?...I don't see any mention of that.

Then again. Xenakis works for Breitbart, so don't expect any revelations on the Iraq war, Saudi ties etc.

https://www.breitbart.com/author/john-j-xenakis/
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imho basically any 3rd world countries tat hv no real economic or strategic values to any of the first world bullies, can run wild n free with any dictators of their own choosing to their own demise
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