Immigration: + 50,000 Chinese expected in 2018

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Immigration: + 50,000 Chinese expected in 2018

Post by Kinetic » Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:07 pm

+ 50,000

The Interior Minister said that by the end of 2018, more than 50,000 Chinese would come to Cambodia to invest while new large-scale construction projects are underway.

The main areas concerned are Phnom Penh, Preah Sihanouk and Siem Reap.
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Chinese nationals in Sihanoukville. Photography Christophe Gargiulo

In a meeting with police and immigration last week, Sok Phal, the new secretary of state at the Ministry of the Interior, said more than 100,000 Chinese nationals were living in Cambodia in 2017.

In the second half of 2018, they rose to 210,000.

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Figures are based on statistics of visa extension applications submitted by Chinese nationals. The annual statistics do not include diplomats and tourists.
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and more in the article.
https://cambodgemag.com/2018/09/immigra ... -2018.html

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Re: Immigration: + 50,000 Chinese expected in 2018

Post by phuketrichard » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:20 pm

LOL
investors or gamblers
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Re: Immigration: + 50,000 Chinese expected in 2018

Post by cptrelentless » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:13 am

5 mil, maybe 10. In the next five years.
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Re: Immigration: + 50,000 Chinese expected in 2018

Post by jekkar » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:15 am

cptrelentless wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:13 am
5 mil, maybe 10. In the next five years.
Already supposedly 250,000 living in the country, that is substantial for a country this small. And thats just the official number the government has allowed to be published. Paying back debts with resettlement schemes...bad idea Cambodia....bad idea...
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Re: Immigration: + 50,000 Chinese expected in 2018

Post by xandreu » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:23 am

Why is it such a bad idea? I understand why people think that, but if the alternative is that Cambodia struggles on as a developing country for decades to come, surely foreign investment is a good thing? Would people be complaining as much if the foreign investment was coming from the US or Europe? I doubt it. But then, Cambodia wouldn't allow such high investment from them. They're friends with China. So it boils down to two options. Refuse foreign investment and keep the struggling economy as the status quo, or open your doors to China, who are willing to invest billions which will inevitably create jobs, stimulate the economy and potentially lift thousands out of an otherwise poverty stricken life.

I understand why people are cynical about it, but it's happening anyway so get used to it. It wasn't that long ago that China was a struggling, developing country. They seem to have done alight for themselves (economically speaking) - there's no reason why they can't do the same for Cambodia.
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Re: Immigration: + 50,000 Chinese expected in 2018

Post by Barang chgout » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:30 am

Jobs for whom?
Lifting who outa poverty?

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Re: Immigration: + 50,000 Chinese expected in 2018

Post by IraHayes » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:23 am

xandreu wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:23 am
Why is it such a bad idea? I understand why people think that, but if the alternative is that Cambodia struggles on as a developing country for decades to come, surely foreign investment is a good thing? Would people be complaining as much if the foreign investment was coming from the US or Europe? I doubt it. But then, Cambodia wouldn't allow such high investment from them. They're friends with China. So it boils down to two options. Refuse foreign investment and keep the struggling economy as the status quo, or open your doors to China, who are willing to invest billions which will inevitably create jobs, stimulate the economy and potentially lift thousands out of an otherwise poverty stricken life.

I understand why people are cynical about it, but it's happening anyway so get used to it. It wasn't that long ago that China was a struggling, developing country. They seem to have done alight for themselves (economically speaking) - there's no reason why they can't do the same for Cambodia.
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Re: Immigration: + 50,000 Chinese expected in 2018

Post by Kinetic » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:35 pm

xandreu wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:23 am
Why is it such a bad idea? I understand why people think that, but if the alternative is that Cambodia struggles on as a developing country for decades to come, surely foreign investment is a good thing? Would people be complaining as much if the foreign investment was coming from the US or Europe? I doubt it. But then, Cambodia wouldn't allow such high investment from them. They're friends with China. So it boils down to two options. Refuse foreign investment and keep the struggling economy as the status quo, or open your doors to China, who are willing to invest billions which will inevitably create jobs, stimulate the economy and potentially lift thousands out of an otherwise poverty stricken life.

I understand why people are cynical about it, but it's happening anyway so get used to it. It wasn't that long ago that China was a struggling, developing country. They seem to have done alight for themselves (economically speaking) - there's no reason why they can't do the same for Cambodia.
I hear what you say and I'm partially agree BUT what I criticize it's the way it's done. Go in Sihanoukville and you wil see. Expropriation,the cost of life increase, big constructions without respect for the coastline... I know that it is the counterpart of the big real estate investment. But the big NO for me it's that the chinese do not adapt to the cambodian culture, they impose their. They came with their chinese restaurants, chinese shops, chinese casinos, chinese ressorts, chinese workers, etc...in 10 years, Sihanoukville will become an extension of China.
I've stayed there for 3 weeks, maybe expat living there will tell me that it's not as worst as I describe.
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Post by Kinetic » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:40 pm

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Re: Immigration: + 50,000 Chinese expected in 2018

Post by rogerrabbit » Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:51 pm

Kinetic wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:35 pm
xandreu wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:23 am
Why is it such a bad idea? I understand why people think that, but if the alternative is that Cambodia struggles on as a developing country for decades to come, surely foreign investment is a good thing? Would people be complaining as much if the foreign investment was coming from the US or Europe? I doubt it. But then, Cambodia wouldn't allow such high investment from them. They're friends with China. So it boils down to two options. Refuse foreign investment and keep the struggling economy as the status quo, or open your doors to China, who are willing to invest billions which will inevitably create jobs, stimulate the economy and potentially lift thousands out of an otherwise poverty stricken life.

I understand why people are cynical about it, but it's happening anyway so get used to it. It wasn't that long ago that China was a struggling, developing country. They seem to have done alight for themselves (economically speaking) - there's no reason why they can't do the same for Cambodia.
I hear what you say and I'm partially agree BUT what I criticize it's the way it's done. Go in Sihanoukville and you wil see. Expropriation,the cost of life increase, big constructions without respect for the coastline... I know that it is the counterpart of the big real estate investment. But the big NO for me it's that the chinese do not adapt to the cambodian culture, they impose their. They came with their chinese restaurants, chinese shops, chinese casinos, chinese ressorts, chinese workers, etc...in 10 years, Sihanoukville will become an extension of China.
I've stayed there for 3 weeks, maybe expat living there will tell me that it's not as worst as I describe.
Didn't the westerners do the same? They came with their western restaurants, bars and resorts too. In much smaller scale of course as there was much less westerners than chinese now but same thing has happened with them.

Cost of living will decrease probably next year already once first batch of constructions will finish.
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