malaysia has VERY beautiful islands, along the chinese sea, not far from the mainland, the coastal side where the plane was first suspected to have crashed.

KL reminds me of Brisbane a bit.

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potty wrote:malaysia has VERY beautiful islands, along the chinese sea, not far from the mainland, the coastal side where the plane was first suspected to have crashed.

and i've been recently in malaysian borneo (sabah and sarawak) and it's great, it's modern, clean, well developed and well organized, just like in mainland malaysia, there's so many things there for the sort of tourists into wildlife and nature but also plenty of small unspoiled islands and more, and Brunei, etc etc

it's ridicolous that malaysia has such a bad reputation among farangs, i've traveled in indonesia for almost two months and landing in borneo was like going back to civilization, indonesia is so fucked up and yet everybody praise indonesia just because of Bali and once again because of the cheap hookers and cheap booze.

now talking about this, actuallly you can fuck even in Malaysia for 50$ bucks with chinese and indonesian and filipino girls, it won't be as cheap as elsewhere but 1500 baht for a short time is not the end of the world, so many mongers are thinking there's no sex available at all in malaysia and this is total bullshit, actually you can even fuck for free with the chinese and with some malays if you're in good shape and you know the score, they're not all sectarian muslims who marry virgin and blah blah blah, not at all, there's clubs and discos as well, it's just a bit harder than in buddhist countries but nothing like Saudi Arabia ... there are chinese massages offering extras everywhere, and i've seen also african hookers and ladyboys in Penang, the real reason malaysia is off the radar for many westerners is the expensive booze and the lack of a nightlife culture as in thailand/cambo/philippines ... but this could be debated because in Langkawi the booze is a lot cheaper being a duty free zone.

and then again, even in Kuala Lumpur you can find cheap whiskey or vodka from the chinese in chinatown, along with street whores, massage parlours, small brothels ... just raise your antennas, it's not hard to see what's going on there ... of course there's nothing like Soi Cowboy but what the hell ... still much better than in Myanmar or Laos or most of Vietnam i would say ... and the very rock bottom there's Chow Kit north of KL.

phuketrichard wrote:Maybe ask why? Backpackers/ tourists and long term residents want to have have fun. nothing to do with $$

I have been in Malaysia 3 times this year alone.

I find Penang interesting and really enjoy it there and when i travel there, i drive, not fly from a to b, so get to see alot of the country.
Its clean, roads are nice, people are friendly, good food and i don't drink but still.....no thanks

Langkawi could be great IF you have a boat to get around, otherwise its dam expensive compared to Thailand, as is the rest of the country.

Langkawi beats phuket hands down in any department, it's not yet as famous because there's no open air prostitution and you know it.

dam expensive ? compared to what, to Phuket ? are you joking ?

apart for booze, even kuala is cheaper than phuket, but hey maybe we've definitely different tastes and lifestyles.

you can retire at 35 in the philipines. shit, i am old enough to retire there now. i just need the $10k

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