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CBEQ · Post by **CBEQ** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:46 am

Thanks a lot of for clarification. Already used the words today and got some surprised looks from my co workers.

Post by **Jamie_Lambo** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:05 pm

taabarang wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:02 am You done yourself proud Father Punchy. Is it not safe to assume that the abbreviations '"Hz/Hery/" are contributions from younger internet users? These two unlike their 3rd companion bear no resemblance to transliterated Khmer.

"Hz" is internet talk, used by the youth to sound "cool"

Hery is the common Khmer way of transcribing it, the ើ Vowel is simplified to "er" even though it has 2 sounds depending on which consonant its surrounds, like in the word "Yerng" (us/our) it has the "Er" sound but in others like the word for A lot/Many, Khmers would write it Chrern even though its more of a "Aer" sound and we would be more tempted to write Chran/Chraern

taabarang · Post by **taabarang** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:52 pm

My suspicion was correct; I needed to consult a younger source than my wife, who due to the generation gap like me "kob yobal." So I asked my 14 year old daughter, a Facebook addict, and she laid some common abbreviations on me

The only one I remember is "nh" for "nyom". Language expertise definitely runs best on the Khmer side of the gene pool

Post by **Jamie_Lambo** » Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:17 pm

taabarang wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:02 am You done yourself proud Father Punchy. Is it not safe to assume that the abbreviations '"Hz/Hery/" are contributions from younger internet users? These two unlike their 3rd companion bear no resemblance to transliterated Khmer.

yeah theres loads even i feel out and out of touch as i struggle reading it, (this is the 2nd time im typing this out as i accidentally closed the page

)

b = Bong
o = Oun
sl/ml = Somlanh/Mit Somlanh
nh/nho = Nyom/Khnom
hz/hx = Hery/Hauy
tt = Tiet
Zart/Art = Saart
Zeii = Srey
rkun = Orkun
yy = Niyeay
lg = Leng
dg = Dung
dl = Dol
nv = Nov
pg = Pong
ng = Nung
jg = Jong
Jit = Chet
70 = Chet
nb/np = Nob
G9 = Good night
4141 = Crush
cr = Crush
mk = Mok/Mou
fri = Friend
cmt = Comment
Nak = Neak
Lozz = Loy (good)
pm = Puak Mak
muy = Mouy

theres loads more but i could go on forever lol

explorer · Post by **explorer** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:51 am

Because these are some of the most used words in the Cambodian language, I will explain in more detail for those wanting to learn.

ទេ Tde means no. You can change a statement to a question by putting no - tde at the end. Put tdaa at the front also.

One of the most commonly asked questions is: How are you?

Sok subai

In its long form this is:

Tdaa ne aing sok subai jia roo tde

tdaa means are

ne aing means you

sok means safe

subai means happy

jia means well

roo means or

tde means no

Are you safe, happy, well or no?

Instead of you, you can use uncle, aunt, sir, teacher, etc. for respect.

Ot means not

Mn - min - mun also means not.

Arj means can, or to be able to.

Ot arj or mn arj means cant or not able to.

Je means know how to.

Ot je or mn je means not know how to.

Gom means dont.

If you ask a question and the answer is no, they will often say ot tde, which in English is no not.

explorer · Post by **explorer** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:52 am

You can say a word is translated many different ways in many different sentences, and try and learn many different meanings.

I like to ask, what is its fundamental meaning?

បាន baan at a fundamental level means have.

For example:

rork baan - rork means look for, baan means have, so rork baan means find, or have found.

stup baan - sdup means listen, baan means have, stup baan means listen have, which implies I heard and understood.

jaam baan - means have remembered.

twer baan - means have done.

If you put this in future tense, you can say:

will find

will listen

will remember

will do

If you say the same meaning can be expressed with different words, you can come up with the different translations.

If someone says sdup baan means understood, you now know where this comes from.

It is a lot easier to learn the fundamental meaning, than to try to remember many different meanings.

Post by **Jamie_Lambo** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:11 am

explorer wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:51 am Because these are some of the most used words in the Cambodian language, I will explain in more detail for those wanting to learn.

ទេ Tde means no. You can change a statement to a question by putting no - tde at the end. Put tdaa at the front also.

One of the most commonly asked questions is: How are you?

Sok subai

In its long form this is:

Tdaa ne aing sok subai jia roo tde

tdaa means are

ne aing means you

sok means safe

subai means happy

jia means well

roo means or

tde means no

Are you safe, happy, well or no?

Instead of you, you can use uncle, aunt, sir, teacher, etc. for respect.

Ot means not

Mn - min - mun also means not.

Arj means can, or to be able to.

Ot arj or mn arj means cant or not able to.

Je means know how to.

Ot je or mn je means not know how to.

Gom means dont.

If you ask a question and the answer is no, they will often say ot tde, which in English is no not.

teaching that certain words mean one certain thing in Khmer or visa versa isnt the best, your example is correct, and works well in that context, but as you know single words can change their meaning depending on what other words they are paired with in the sentence...

Sok more commonly means - Well/Healthy/Happy/Peaceful/Satisfied eg. Sok Peap - Healthy, Sok Jet - Satisfied/Happy, Sok Arom - Happy/Feeling Happy etc...

Jia more commonly means - is/are/am eg. Nis Jia Avey? What is this? Teang Nis Jia Ahkrok - All these are bad, Khnom Jia Bros Laor - I am a good boy etc...

Dte = is a negative particle, by its self it doesnt really mean "No", No = Ot Dte, Dte is just used as a negative particle... or in other cases a question particle...

explorer · Post by **explorer** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:06 am

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:11 am Jia more commonly means - is/are/am

Dte = is a negative particle, by its self it doesnt really mean "No", No = Ot Dte, Dte is just used as a negative particle... or in other cases a question particle...

Some words have more than one meaning. Jia is an example. One meaning is is/are/am. Another meaning is well. We can learn each meaning.

It is interesting with tde/dte. Each of us may learn from different sources and come to a different understanding. As we learn more it may become clearer.

taabarang · Post by **taabarang** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:38 am

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:17 pm
taabarang wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:02 am You done yourself proud Father Punchy. Is it not safe to assume that the abbreviations '"Hz/Hery/" are contributions from younger internet users? These two unlike their 3rd companion bear no resemblance to transliterated Khmer.
yeah theres loads even i feel out and out of touch as i struggle reading it, (this is the 2nd time im typing this out as i accidentally closed the page )

b = Bong
o = Oun
sl/ml = Somlanh/Mit Somlanh
nh/nho = Nyom/Khnom
hz/hx = Hery/Hauy
tt = Tiet
Zart/Art = Saart
Zeii = Srey
rkun = Orkun
yy = Niyeay
lg = Leng
dg = Dung
dl = Dol
nv = Nov
pg = Pong
ng = Nung
jg = Jong
Jit = Chet
70 = Chet
nb/np = Nob
G9 = Good night
4141 = Crush
cr = Crush
mk = Mok/Mou
fri = Friend
cmt = Comment
Nak = Neak
Lozz = Loy (good)
pm = Puak Mak
muy = Mouy

theres loads more but i could go on forever lol

What, no abbreviation for kikilu?

Post by **Jamie_Lambo** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:57 pm

taabarang wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:38 am
Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:17 pm
taabarang wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:02 am You done yourself proud Father Punchy. Is it not safe to assume that the abbreviations '"Hz/Hery/" are contributions from younger internet users? These two unlike their 3rd companion bear no resemblance to transliterated Khmer.
yeah theres loads even i feel out and out of touch as i struggle reading it, (this is the 2nd time im typing this out as i accidentally closed the page )

b = Bong
o = Oun
sl/ml = Somlanh/Mit Somlanh
nh/nho = Nyom/Khnom
hz/hx = Hery/Hauy
tt = Tiet
Zart/Art = Saart
Zeii = Srey
rkun = Orkun
yy = Niyeay
lg = Leng
dg = Dung
dl = Dol
nv = Nov
pg = Pong
ng = Nung
jg = Jong
Jit = Chet
70 = Chet
nb/np = Nob
G9 = Good night
4141 = Crush
cr = Crush
mk = Mok/Mou
fri = Friend
cmt = Comment
Nak = Neak
Lozz = Loy (good)
pm = Puak Mak
muy = Mouy

theres loads more but i could go on forever lol
What, no abbreviation for kikilu?

haha na unfortunatly not, but in Khmer script its គីគីលូ

KiKi (nickname for a dog) + Lu (Howl) - Howl like a dog

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