Shocking animal abuse in PP.

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Re: Shocking animal abuse in PP.

Post by sklmeera » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:11 pm

Jamie_Lambo wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:15 am
fear is supposed to ruin the meat isnt it?
I have heard some yogic philosopy that the fear is transferred into the meat and then on into the eater of that meat . Dont know how you would test that theory though .
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Re: Shocking animal abuse in PP.

Post by that genius » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:16 pm

Bolt, then cut throat

The OT/Islamic way of slaughtering animals is only tolerated because we may be accused of anti-Semitism or Islamophobia, Dog forbid that happens

Barbaric religious practices.
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Re: Shocking animal abuse in PP.

Post by Jamie_Lambo » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:21 pm

sklmeera wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:11 pm
Jamie_Lambo wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:15 am
fear is supposed to ruin the meat isnt it?
I have heard some yogic philosopy that the fear is transferred into the meat and then on into the eater of that meat . Dont know how you would test that theory though .
yeah its an actual thing, just couldnt remember the name, its the real reason why they use the bolt gun, the "its more humane" is just the cover...
PSE meat

Pale, Soft, Exudative meat, or PSE meat, describes a carcass quality condition known to occur in pork, beef, and poultry. It is characterized by an abnormal color, consistency, and water holding capacity, making the meat dry and unattractive to consumers. The condition is believed to be caused by abnormal muscle metabolism following slaughter, due to an altered rate of glycolysis and a low pH within the muscle fibers. A mutation point in the ryanodine receptor gene in pork, associated to stress levels prior to slaughter are known to increase the incidence of PSE meat.

Although the term "soft" may look positive, it refers to raw meat. When cooked, there is higher cook loss and the final products is hard, not juicy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSE_meat
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Re: Shocking animal abuse in PP.

Post by Duncan » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:28 pm

sklmeera wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:11 pm
Jamie_Lambo wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:15 am
fear is supposed to ruin the meat isnt it?
I have heard some yogic philosopy that the fear is transferred into the meat and then on into the eater of that meat . Dont know how you would test that theory though .
I worked in the Horotiu Freezing Works a couple of times during the peak season and was told that the animals under stress release a substance like adrenalin which tenses up the muscles making the meat tougher and it even shows up on the cutting room where the slaughter-men break down the carcass.
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Re: Shocking animal abuse in PP.

Post by John Bingham » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:32 pm

that genius wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:16 pm
Bolt, then cut throat

The OT/Islamic way of slaughtering animals is only tolerated because we may be accused of anti-Semitism or Islamophobia, Dog forbid that happens

Barbaric religious practices.
The question of how an animal should be slaughtered to avoid cruelty is a different one. It is true that when the blood flows from the throat of an animal it looks violent, but just because meat is now bought neatly and hygienically packaged on supermarket shelves does not mean the animal didn’t have to die? Non-Islamic slaughter methods dictate that the animal should be rendered unconscious before slaughter. This is usually achieved by stunning or electrocution. Is it less painful to shoot a bolt into a sheep’s brain or to ring a chicken’s neck than to slit its throat? To watch the procedure does not objectively tell us what the animal feels.

The scientific facts
A team at the university of Hanover in Germany examined the claims through the use of EEG and ECG records during slaughter. Several electrodes were surgically implanted at various points of the skull of all the animals used in the experiment and they were then allowed to recover for several weeks. Some of the animals were subsequently slaughtered the halal way by making a swift, deep incision with a sharp knife on the neck, cutting the jugular veins and carotid arteries of both sides together with the trachea and esophagus but leaving the spinal cord intact. The remainder were stunned before slaughter using a captive bolt pistol method as is customary in Western slaughterhouses. The EEG and ECG recordings allowed to monitor the condition of the brain and heart throughout.

The Halal method
With the halal method of slaughter, there was not change in the EEG graph for the first three seconds after the incision was made, indicating that the animal did not feel any pain from the cut itself. This is not surprising. Often, if we cut ourselves with a sharp implement, we do not notice until some time later. The following three seconds were characterised by a condition of deep sleep-like unconciousness brought about by the draining of large quantities of blood from the body. Thereafter the EEG recorded a zero reading, indicating no pain at all, yet at that time the heart was still beating and the body convulsing vigorously as a reflex reaction of the spinal cord. It is this phase which is most unpleasant to onlookers who are falsely convinced that the animal suffers whilst its brain does actually no longer record any sensual messages.

The Western method
Using the Western method, the animals were apparently unconscious after stunning, and this method of dispatch would appear to be much more peaceful for the onlooker. However, the EEG readings indicated severe pain immediately after stunning. Whereas in the first example, the animal ceases to feel pain due to the brain starvation of blood and oxygen – a brain death, to put it in laymen’s terms – the second example first causes a stoppage of the heart whilst the animal still feels pain. However, there are no unsightly convulsions, which not only means that there is more blood retention in the meat, but also that this method lends itself much more conveniently to the efficiency demands of modern mass slaughter procedures. It is so much easier to dispatch an animal on the conveyor belt, if it does not move.

Appearances can deceive
Not all is what it seems, then. Those who want to outlaw Islamic slaughter, arguing for a humane method of killing animals for food, are actually more concerned about the feelings of people than those of the animals on whose behalf they appear to speak. The stunning method makes mass butchery easier and looks more palatable for the consumer who can deceive himself that the animal did not feel any pain when he goes to buy his cleanly wrapped parcel of meat from the supermarket. Islamic slaughter, on the other hand, does not try to deny that meat consumption means that animals have to die, but is designed to ensure that their loss of life is achieved with a minimum amount of pain.
https://www.quora.com/Is-halal-killing- ... butchering
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Re: Shocking animal abuse in PP.

Post by that genius » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:37 pm

I don't see any Judaic method.

I see Halaal and western...

Can we see that?

Or is it the same as the Islamic method? Confusing.
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Re: Shocking animal abuse in PP.

Post by bolueeleh » Thu May 03, 2018 10:37 pm

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