Police Raid Phnom Penh Brothel & Free 2 Underage Girls

Breaking news from Cambodia can be found here. CEO often finds Khmer news and translates it into English for our readers if it is interesting to expats, locals, Cambodians living abroad and anyone who wants to stay informed of the latest local and international news stories about Cambodia and our neighbors in South East Asia. There are many sources for Khmer news articles and they can all be found here in one place. Most of the media comes out of Phnom Penh, Siem Reap or Sihanoukville, but we cover national Cambodian news from all provinces.
User avatar
Kuroneko
Expatriate
Posts: 3630
Joined: Thu May 15, 2014 11:18 am
Reputation: 729

Re: Police raid on Phnom Penh brothel frees 2 underage girls

Post by Kuroneko »

Anchor Moy wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:23 pm
Kuroneko wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:22 pm
Artful Dodger wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:03 pm Well.... you go see the chief of police in Phnom Penh who told me this and ask him. I am not in Phnom Penh at the moment to do so.
Irrespective of someone acting on an arbitrary age limit of 21years this is not the Cambodian law which states 18 years, as I have already posted:
As per Article 7 of the TSE Law, a minor is any person under the age of 18 years. It should be noted that Chapter 6 (Articles 42-44) of the TSE Law grants minors who are 15 years and older (that is, persons aged from 15 years to under 18 years) the capacity to consent to engage in sexual relations, but the law does not grant such minors the capacity to engage in prostitution. All prostitution involving any minor (anyone under the age of 18 years) is considered child prostitution, and is illegal under the TSE Law.
Explanatory notes on Trafficking law https://www.unicef.org/cambodia/Explana ... inal_2.pdf

Law on suppression of human trafficking and sexual exploitation, 2008 available here:
Khmer https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/i ... Khm%5D.pdf

English https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/i ... Eng%5D.pdf

I do realise that police on occasion may make up laws to suit their own agenda, but if you read the current law on the suppression of human trafficking it is quite clear.
@ Kuroneko. None of your links are working for me. Dunno why but FYI.
Kuroneko wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:26 am
Artful Dodger wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:47 am
John Bingham wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:44 pm
The Vietnamese victims are two female minors, aged 15 and 19.
I don't want to get into murky arguments about the age of consent here or elsewhere (they both look very young), but since when was a 19-year-old considered a minor here or in any neighboring countries?
In a conversation I had with a district chief of police in P.P. I have known many years, the topic came up a while back about illegal brothels and 'under age' girls. He said that while a brothel is illegal under Cambodia law, they take on a 'pseudo' law approach that a sex worker in a brothel must be at least 21 years of age, as is the case in many countries around the world. Meaning, that if a sex worker in a brothel is under 21, she is deemed to be a minor.

This would explain how the police in this case deemed the 19 year old to be a minor.
And the law states:
Child Prostitution
The definition of child prostitution set out in the second paragraph of this article uses the same definition as for adult prostitution (defined in the first paragraph), with the important difference that the sexual intercourse or other sexual conduct must take place with a minor. Therefore, the definition of child prostitution set out in this article applies whenever the following elements are present:
1)An actor (either an adult or a minor)
2)has sexual activity (sexual intercourse or other sexual conduct)
3)with a minor (any person aged under 18 years)
4)in exchange for anything of value.
It should be noted that the actor (the one who purchases child prostitution) may be an adult or a minor.
As per Article 7 of the TSE Law, a minor is any person under the age of 18 years. It should be noted that Chapter 6 (Articles 42-44) of the TSE Law grants minors who are 15 years and older (that is, persons aged from 15 years to under 18 years) the capacity to consent to engage in sexual relations, but the law does not grant such minors the capacity to engage in prostitution. All prostitution involving any minor (anyone under the age of 18 years) is considered child prostitution, and is illegal under the TSE Law.
Explanatory notes on Trafficking law https://www.unicef.org/cambodia/Explana ... inal_2.pdf

Law on suppression of human trafficking and sexual exploitation, 2008 available here:
Khmer https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/i ... Khm%5D.pdf

English https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/i ... Eng%5D.pdf
Go back to my original post on page two I coppied and pasted this again because people seemed to have missed the original.
Anchor Moy
Expatriate
Posts: 11393
Joined: Wed May 28, 2014 11:37 pm
Reputation: 2565
Tokelau

Re: Police Raid Phnom Penh Brothel & Free 2 Underage Girls

Post by Anchor Moy »

Kuroneko wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:26 pm
Go back to my original post on page two I copied and pasted this again because people seemed to have missed the original.
Yes, thanks. That works for me.
BUT, they don't work again if I copy and paste them here either, so go to Kuuroneko's post on Page 2 of this thread if you are interested in these links.
https://www.unicef.org/cambodia/Explana ... inal_2.pdf
Khmer https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/i ... Khm%5D.pdf
English https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/i ... Eng%5D.pdf
User avatar
Kuroneko
Expatriate
Posts: 3630
Joined: Thu May 15, 2014 11:18 am
Reputation: 729

Re: Police Raid Phnom Penh Brothel & Free 2 Underage Girls

Post by Kuroneko »

Anchor Moy wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:38 pm
Kuroneko wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:26 pm
Go back to my original post on page two I copied and pasted this again because people seemed to have missed the original.
Yes, thanks. That works for me.
BUT, they don't work again if I copy and paste them here either, so go to Kuuroneko's post on Page 2 of this thread if you are interested in these links.
https://www.unicef.org/cambodia/Explana ... inal_2.pdf
Khmer https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/i ... Khm%5D.pdf
English https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/i ... Eng%5D.pdf
If you click them on my post and not copy and paste they work for me!
Image
User avatar
Jamie_Lambo
The Cool Boxing Guy
Posts: 14409
Joined: Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:34 am
Reputation: 2491
Location: កម្ពុជា
Contact:
Great Britain

Re: Police Raid Phnom Penh Brothel & Free 2 Underage Girls

Post by Jamie_Lambo »

Kuroneko wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:46 pm
Anchor Moy wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:38 pm
Kuroneko wrote: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:26 pm
Go back to my original post on page two I copied and pasted this again because people seemed to have missed the original.
Yes, thanks. That works for me.
BUT, they don't work again if I copy and paste them here either, so go to Kuuroneko's post on Page 2 of this thread if you are interested in these links.
https://www.unicef.org/cambodia/Explana ... inal_2.pdf
Khmer https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/i ... Khm%5D.pdf
English https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/applic/i ... Eng%5D.pdf
If you click them on my post and not copy and paste they work for me!
Image
yeah sometimes shouldnt copy and paste links off the forum as they often get shortened
:tophat: Mean Dtuk Mean Trei, Mean Loy Mean Srey
Punchy McShortstacks School of Hard Knocks :x
Post Reply Previous topicNext topic
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post