Raising money for Cambodian social documentary on migrants' left-behind children

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Re: Raising money for Cambodian social documentary on migrants' left-behind children

Post by Beerinthemorning » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:52 am

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Re: Raising money for Cambodian social documentary on migrants' left-behind children

Post by that genius » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:13 am

Beerinthemorning wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:43 am
I live with chinese and indians here in australia they live in dirty condition, dont wash plates and leave rotting food out , it the world in 2018, over run woth third worlders and dirty people.
No offence, mate, but I once had the misfortune to visit the home of a bogan expat in Cambodia, the place was stinking, squalid mess.

It's not about nationality, it's about upbringing and education.

re Third Worlders, you travelled to several countries in search of whatever and worked there, why are those people not allowed to migrate?

Sounds kind of racist and elitist, are you the perfect role model?
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Re: Raising money for Cambodian social documentary on migrants' left-behind children

Post by phuketrichard » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:32 am

Duncan wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:35 pm
explorer wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:03 pm
When you spend time in a poor village, you begin to realize how poor people are, and that most of the people in the village are poor. There are families who cannot buy shoes for their children. There are houses where rain comes through the roof and wind comes through the walls. There are people who grow up hungry.

Because most of the people in the village are poor, people cannot make a significant amount of money from other people in the village.

The only way to make money is to produce something which can be sold in another place, or go and work in another place.

This is the dilemma many people face.



Today I spent a few hour visiting a family in a village and it reminded why some people are poor and will stay poor. Nothing was clean, dirty plates, food and rubbish on the floor and ground, with hoards of fly's spreading bacteria and kids that were sick needing medicines.
The $20 I gave them is just a waste of money cause next week they will be back in the same situation.

I'm convinced the only way forward in cases like this is in education, especially starting with everyday living and hygiene .
Exactly;They live the way they do cause thats how they perceive is the way to live; I gave up visiting my gf's family house in Svay Rieng cause got tired of asking her why so many things are broken and around the house is so dirty yet her dad does fuck all.
Mom died, so rather then the dad sticking around to raise the two youngest daughters, ( 11,13) he left an the 2nd oldest child, (who already has 2 kids of her own), takes cares of both of them. While he fucked off and got another wife.

Khmers are different...

Just finished reading Nic Dunlops's " the lost executioner"
in it he says..

" Khmers have a fatalistic attitude, in khmer Buddhism,where people feel unable to effect anything approaching positive change.This life is a preordained life where the individual is powerless to act."

"People have never known any form of social justice, after the khmer rouge, decades of violence have compounded to create a shattered society where normality is a thin veneer. Cambodia is a society plagued by violence and one of the most disturbing aspects of this 'culture of impunity' is the peoples court, where lynch mobs beat people to death.."
This affects the whole of society

Yep, Khmers are different..


As to the child being raised by grandparents,its not just a Cambodian thing, Many Burmese kids are raised by their relatives while their parents work in Thailand an many Issan kids, same while their parents are off in Bangkok.Its an accepted way of life here
by explorer » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:50 am
Many children living with their grandmother or grandparents, while their parents work away, are happy. That is provided they are loved by their grandparents, they know their parents love them, they are well looked after, and get a good education. They are not happy when they are not loved, not treated well, or don't have a good life, often because they are very poor.
They say they are happy cause they have nothing to compare it to.... an has nothing to do with poverty. I have met many happy, poor families in my time here.

NO ONE is happy when they are not loved, not treated well or dont have a good live....look at trapper... :stir:

How would you know what a 3-7 year old really feels? Are you fluent in the language, have a psychology degree, spend time living in poor communities/villages? Of course a child will say they want to be with their parents...

Education is THE most second most important thing to a child, after love
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Re: Raising money for Cambodian social documentary on migrants' left-behind children

Post by frank lee bent » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:39 am

i will give a bit of credence to those who have actually lived with khmers at their standard.
many here have.
for those who theorise about giving money- it is all hypocritical cant.
and that word i use does not require an apostrophe.
give your time free, along with all your money,then you may get an idea.
movies just don't come into it.
neither do ill informed opinions.
poverty porn as fund raising bait sucks
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Re: Raising money for Cambodian social documentary on migrants' left-behind children

Post by explorer » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:13 am

I would still encourage her to make the movie.

I just suggest presenting a balanced view. Sometimes the kids whose parents work away are better off than those whose parents stay in the village and live in severe poverty.

I also suggested a movie could be made about the kids completely abandoned when their parents remarry. Kids without parents have it really difficult, and are often taken advantage of, and finish up in very bad situations,

Another movie could be made about the girls being sold, and what happens to them.
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Re: Raising money for Cambodian social documentary on migrants' left-behind children

Post by takeoman » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:06 am

I have now resided in a village in Takeo for over eight years and still haven't fully worked out the complicated extended family networks that exist. My wife's father being dead and her being the oldest child resulted in me being used as a substitute for him ie I played the part of the grooms father at her youngest brothers wedding. Within the family unit, rather than the usual dtaa barang, I am referred to as pa, whilst the deceased was papa. I also struggle with bringing up children not mine, a daughter from my wife's first marriage, and an adopted son, the third child of a sister in law with a perchance for complete wastrels when it comes to men. The daughter is now married and a mother herself, she has shown little interest in her real father, the boy is aware of who his mother is and sees her regularly. I hope they both know that I love them, but being an uptight repressed westerner, as opposed to a demonstrative Khmer,I have difficulty showing it and so they may well not. :hattip:
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Re: Raising money for Cambodian social documentary on migrants' left-behind children

Post by Heng Heng Heng » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:24 pm

Years ago, I lived in an crumbling old building along the Riverside with my girlfriend. It wasn't much, but we kept it clean. Our neighbors, which included a white junkie or methhead, his unkempt daughter and about 8 or 9 village people. You'd think with that many people and a few minutes each, that place would have been sparkling. Well, you'd have been wrong. It was a true shit-sty. Trash was left everywhere. We were concerned about the leaky rubbish bags dripping down the stairwell would attract rats, flies and cockroaches that we moved out. At first, I thought their problem was poverty as they so were so fucking poor that they couldn't afford to bend over and pick up their own rubbish, but now I realize it was simply a question of standards. No matter how poor I might be, my upbringing would never allow me to wallow in my own shit.
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Re: Raising money for Cambodian social documentary on migrants' left-behind children

Post by that genius » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:10 pm

Let's hope the organisation is transparent in its accounting, dog knows we have enough dodgy foreign accountants here willing to bend rules to go forward.

The world needs a transparent accounting NGO.
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Re: Raising money for Cambodian social documentary on migrants' left-behind children

Post by Duncan » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:58 pm

that genius wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:10 pm
Let's hope the organisation is transparent in its accounting, dog knows we have enough dodgy foreign accountants here willing to bend rules to go forward.

The world needs a transparent accounting NGO.
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Re: Raising money for Cambodian social documentary on migrants' left-behind children

Post by newkidontheblock » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:23 pm

Sad, but Khmer kids are tossed around like footballs. Remarriage means a complete break from kids and all. There really isn’t this concept of what’s best for the child or co-parenting. Pity the kids.
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