Sympathy for the devil

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About 20 years ago when I first ventured into Vietnam, the locals referred to Filipinos as the Jews of the Pacific, while Filipinos referred to Vietnamese as the Jews of Asia. I am now thinking Cambodia is a runner up, if not leading the pool.

I speak in the topic of the Girly Bars which according to Forbes economic data, is a economy/trade indicator as is the amount of rubbish delivered to the tip in New York city.

When I first ventured into Vietnam, "bar fines" in the girly bars were unheard of, but now are becoming more common. Perhaps most now demand bar fines. This precursor entered Cambodia girly bars well before it did in Vietnam and I doubt any girly bar now in HE's empire do not demand it.

That being said, I feel sympathy for the bar girl who's income seems to be reducing, while the bar owners increases. In the infamous street 136 in P.P., and in bars of Sihanoukville Square, I speak with the bar girls (impossible not to without telling them to "F" off.)
The girls tell me of the varying bar fines to be paid to take a girl out, of which the girl receives none of that. It is also the common situation that of what payment the girl is paid by her horny customer, the bar takes a percentage. Talking with a few girls at the Butterfly Bar in P.P., they told me they paid half of their payment back to the bar. I recall a few years ago where the girls at the same bar said they retained all of what their customer paid them.

I do not recall the name of the bar where a bar girl there told me she had to pay the bar $5 a day to be there looking for customers, wether she had a customer or not, and the customer still had to pay a bar fine if he took her.

Am I mistaken in my observation? Is it the case that the bar owners are increasing their takings at the expense of the bar girl?

As a economic reflection, in talking with a friend of mine who is in obtaining supply for the Korean clothing supplier she works for , she tells me it is now the case that most, if not all garment manufacturers, have introduced a system where first time employees work without salary for 3 months for what they call "training period". She tells me now creeping in, is where the employer has the new employee pay a fee to the employer for that 3 training period before receiving salary.
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she tells me it is now the case that most, if not all garment manufacturers, have introduced a system where first time employees work without salary for 3 months for what they call "training period"
i would find this difficult to believe as wages are constantly increasing due to the inability to find staff
the pace of change in Cambodia has been a striking feature since i first visited.
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i liked it better before the Chinese took over.
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Artful Dodger wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:00 am About 20 years ago when I first ventured into Vietnam, the locals referred to Filipinos as the Jews of the Pacific, while Filipinos referred to Vietnamese as the Jews of Asia. I am now thinking Cambodia is a runner up, if not leading the pool.

I speak in the topic of the Girly Bars which according to Forbes economic data, is a economy/trade indicator as is the amount of rubbish delivered to the tip in New York city.

When I first ventured into Vietnam, "bar fines" in the girly bars were unheard of, but now are becoming more common. Perhaps most now demand bar fines. This precursor entered Cambodia girly bars well before it did in Vietnam and I doubt any girly bar now in HE's empire do not demand it.

That being said, I feel sympathy for the bar girl who's income seems to be reducing, while the bar owners increases. In the infamous street 136 in P.P., and in bars of Sihanoukville Square, I speak with the bar girls (impossible not to without telling them to "F" off.)
The girls tell me of the varying bar fines to be paid to take a girl out, of which the girl receives none of that. It is also the common situation that of what payment the girl is paid by her horny customer, the bar takes a percentage. Talking with a few girls at the Butterfly Bar in P.P., they told me they paid half of their payment back to the bar. I recall a few years ago where the girls at the same bar said they retained all of what their customer paid them.

I do not recall the name of the bar where a bar girl there told me she had to pay the bar $5 a day to be there looking for customers, wether she had a customer or not, and the customer still had to pay a bar fine if he took her.

Am I mistaken in my observation? Is it the case that the bar owners are increasing their takings at the expense of the bar girl?

As a economic reflection, in talking with a friend of mine who is in obtaining supply for the Korean clothing supplier she works for , she tells me it is now the case that most, if not all garment manufacturers, have introduced a system where first time employees work without salary for 3 months for what they call "training period". She tells me now creeping in, is where the employer has the new employee pay a fee to the employer for that 3 training period before receiving salary.
what you mean when you say " jews" of the ___ can you clarify?
As far as I can remember there are always bar fines... I been coming here since about 2010
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ahh yes.... seems that ur assessment of financial markets and bars scene have been a little off, perhaps a little rusty? time to get updated :beer3:
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BklynBoy wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:45 am

what you mean when you say " jews" of the ___ can you clarify?

Is the generic term given to people who are considered money grabbers. Sometimes considered racist or politically incorrect. I am no P.C. !! (I am also of Jewish origin myself)
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Artful Dodger wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:00 amAs a economic reflection, in talking with a friend of mine who is in obtaining supply for the Korean clothing supplier she works for , she tells me it is now the case that most, if not all garment manufacturers, have introduced a system where first time employees work without salary for 3 months for what they call "training period". She tells me now creeping in, is where the employer has the new employee pay a fee to the employer for that 3 training period before receiving salary.
She's either ignorant or on a sympathy drive.

Totally illegal under the Labour Law, and there is an election coming up. There is no way such a practice would be tolerated.
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Artful Dodger wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:04 am
BklynBoy wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:45 am

what you mean when you say " jews" of the ___ can you clarify?

Is the generic term given to people who are considered money grabbers. Sometimes considered racist or politically incorrect. I am no P.C. !! (I am also of Jewish origin myself)
I wasn't sure but thought that's what you meant... your a dick.. but ok..
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On another note, I'm really interested in your writing style, in both this thread and on another. It's almost as if you're trying too hard, but that's just my opinion.
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that genius wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:06 am
Artful Dodger wrote: Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:00 amAs a economic reflection, in talking with a friend of mine who is in obtaining supply for the Korean clothing supplier she works for , she tells me it is now the case that most, if not all garment manufacturers, have introduced a system where first time employees work without salary for 3 months for what they call "training period". She tells me now creeping in, is where the employer has the new employee pay a fee to the employer for that 3 training period before receiving salary.
She's either ignorant or on a sympathy drive.

Totally illegal under the Labour Law, and there is an election coming up. There is no way such a practice would be tolerated.
actually there are such practices in small factories and shops, they called it apprenticeship :shock:
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he stated that 'most, if not all garment manufacturers'.

Patently untrue.
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