Hypothetical hard title vs. soft title conflict

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Hypothetical hard title vs. soft title conflict

Post by newkidontheblock » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:14 am

Family has decided that missus should named on the hard title for the family land. Pretty much because she can be trusted to never gamble it away or pawn it or put it up for a quickie loan. Family land also includes several pieces lived on by others that have soft titles to their individual plots. Never really a problem as long as sold to other villagers as soft title sales.

Here’s the hypothetical. Can developers (Khmer Filipinos or maybe Oknha) buy the soft title and convert it to hard title? Or the opposite, if the family hard title is bought, are the villagers soft titles still valid?

Just curious about how the law works in the KOW.
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Re: Hypothetical hard title vs. soft title conflict

Post by John Bingham » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:32 am

Khmer Filipinos
I'm curious as to why you'd single out this very small demographic.
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Re: Hypothetical hard title vs. soft title conflict

Post by cptrelentless » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:44 am

If you've got the soft title there is a legal process for converting it to a hard title, yes.
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Re: Hypothetical hard title vs. soft title conflict

Post by PSD-Kiwi » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:36 am

Wait...are you saying that there is one large piece of land which is hard-title...but that same piece of land has been broken up into smaller plots which have soft titles?

Or are the soft title plots separate from the hard title plot?
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Re: Hypothetical hard title vs. soft title conflict

Post by bangkokhooker » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:45 am

If the hard title plot has been sub-divided and sold it’s no longer a going concern and can’t be transferred as a block but what ever is left can be.

Even soft title has processes with people of authority and if a title is fraudulently sold then no matter who it is will be in deep dooddoo.
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Re: Hypothetical hard title vs. soft title conflict

Post by bolueeleh » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:57 am

it aint easy navigating thru all these red tapes peppered with lost translation, i had 3 different answers from 3 different men in the same department regarding a same question,

suggestion to OP, get ur facts absolutely straight before proceeding and i dont any posters here can give any valuable advise until u hv all the facts too
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Re: Hypothetical hard title vs. soft title conflict

Post by PSD-Kiwi » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:36 am

Basic rule of thumb...Hard-title over rules Soft-title.
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Re: Hypothetical hard title vs. soft title conflict

Post by timmydownawell » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:38 am

I think you need to get a clear definition of exactly what land is on the hard title.
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Re: Hypothetical hard title vs. soft title conflict

Post by Kayve » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:41 am

The one with the hard title is the one who's right ... Or something like this.
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Re: Hypothetical hard title vs. soft title conflict

Post by newkidontheblock » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:10 pm

PSD-Kiwi wrote:Wait...are you saying that there is one large piece of land which is hard-title...but that same piece of land has been broken up into smaller plots which have soft titles?

Or are the soft title plots separate from the hard title plot?
The first is correct. Hard title land. Villager builds on a piece of land and get soft title. Another villagers does the same, etc.

Development is increasing in this area and I can foresee that this may be a future problem.

Hypothetical question is if an inventor buys one of the soft title sub plots and converts to hard title. Can he override and break up the missus’ hard title in small pieces?

Or hypothetical vice versa. Way in the future great grandkids sell the hard title to an inventor. What happens to the soft title sub plots?

Right now villagers live on all the land so hard title, soft title, ownership is pretty much in flux and not so important. But once it becomes investors and companies, it could get ugly.
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