Australian James Ricketson convicted of defaming APLE.

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QUOTE *a John Pilger type of investigative journalist should expose this if that is the case**


Sad 2 say, an ill-chosen thought - Pilger was 100% wrong about the British SAS commandoes training the KR after the Viet invasion
1978/9 - when the Cold War was still on - a lot of people fell for it at the time

PIlger's HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE but a lot of his impassioned stuff is 50% - 99% garbage
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boozyoldman wrote:Fletcher was and is innocent of the crime of which he was convicted.

APLE is corrupt to the bone.

Will APLE move against CEO next?
boozyoldman wrote:

QUOTE *a John Pilger type of investigative journalist should expose this if that is the case**


Sad 2 say, an ill-chosen thought - Pilger was 100% wrong about the British SAS commandoes training the KR after the Viet invasion
1978/9 - when the Cold War was still on - a lot of people fell for it at the time

PIlger's HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE but a lot of his impassioned stuff is 50% - 99% garbage


But you're 100% right ? :popcorn: Right ?
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BOM 100% right?

Far effing from it PLUS I never put my heart and soul into anything like Pilger has done and continues to do ...
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Pilger tries hard but has his faults, of course.
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boozyoldman wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2017 3:36 pm
QUOTE *a John Pilger type of investigative journalist should expose this if that is the case**


Sad 2 say, an ill-chosen thought - Pilger was 100% wrong about the British SAS commandoes training the KR after the Viet invasion
1978/9 - when the Cold War was still on - a lot of people fell for it at the time

PIlger's HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE but a lot of his impassioned stuff is 50% - 99% garbage
What was the evidence that "exonerated" the SAS from involvement in training the KR?
Butcher of Cambodia set to expose Thatcher's role The Guardian Jan 2000
Ta Mok's lawyer, Benson Samay, said the court would hear details of how, between 1985 and 1989, the Special Air Service (SAS) ran a series of training camps for Khmer Rouge allies in Thailand close to the Cambodian border and created a 'sabotage battalion' of 250 experts in explosives and ambushes. Intelligence experts in Singapore also ran training courses, Samay said.

To allow Ministers to deny helping the Khmer Rouge, the SAS was ordered to train only soldiers loyal to the ousted Prince Norodom Sihanouk, and the liberal democrat former Prime Minister, Son Sann, who were fighting alongside Pol Pot's Communists. However, Samay said the court would be told the Khmer Rouge benefited substantially from the British operation.

'All these groups were fighting together - but the Khmer Rouge were in charge. They profited from any help to the others. If they had won the war outright, then Pol Pot would have been back in charge,' Samay said.

The Khmer Rouge and their allies were fighting against the Vietnamese-backed puppet regime Hanoi had installed after ousting Pol Pot's extremist Communists and exposing the horrors of the killing fields.

In a classic piece of Cold War realpolitik, Britain - prompted by the Americans - appears to have given military assistance to the Khmer Rouge-led coalition, despite knowing of Pol Pot's atrocities, in an attempt to limit the power of the Soviet-backed Vietnamese.
Thatcher’s stance was clear – Britain did not recognise the new communist Vietnamese government in Cambodia. So between 1985 and 1989, Britain’s elite Special Air Service (SAS) ran a series of training camps for Khmer Rouge allies in Thailand close to the Cambodian border and created a ‘sabotage battalion’ of 250 experts in explosives and ambushes. Intelligence experts in Singapore also ran training courses.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/jan/09/cambodia

Thatcher’s stance was clear – Britain did not recognise the new communist Vietnamese government in Cambodia. So between 1985 and 1989, Britain’s elite Special Air Service (SAS) ran a series of training camps for Khmer Rouge allies in Thailand close to the Cambodian border and created a ‘sabotage battalion’ of 250 experts in explosives and ambushes. Intelligence experts in Singapore also ran training courses.

Jane’s Defence Weekly reported that the British training for the members of the ‘coalition’ had been going on “at secret bases in Thailand for more than four years”.

The instructors were from the SAS, “all serving military personnel, all veterans of the Falklands conflict, led by a captain”.

The Cambodian training became an exclusively British operation after 1986.

“If Congress had found out that Americans were mixed up in clandestine training in Indochina, let alone with Pol Pot,” a Ministry of Defense source told Simon O’Dwyer-Russell of the Sunday Telegraph, “the balloon would have gone right up. It was one of those classic Thatcher-Reagan arrangements. It was put to her that the SAS should take over the Cambodia show, and she agreed.”

In 1991, journalist John Pilger interviewed a member of ‘R’ Squadron of the SAS, who had served on the border. “We trained the KR in a lot of technical stuff – a lot about mines,” he told him.https://goingphnomandon.wordpress.com/tag/sas/

“We used mines that came originally from Royal Ordnance in Britain, which we got by way of Egypt with marking changed … we even gave them psychological training. At first, they wanted to go into the villages and just chop people up. We told them how to go easy.”

A report by Asia Watch filled in some details: the SAS had taught “the use of improvised explosive devices, booby traps and the manufacture and use of time-delay devices”.

The author of the report, Rae McGrath (who shared a joint Nobel Peace Prize for the campaign on landmines), wrote in the Guardian that “the SAS training was a criminally irresponsible and cynical policy”.

The former SAS soldier Chris Ryan, now a best-selling author, lamented that “when John Pilger, the foreign correspondent, discovered we were training the Khmer Rouge in the Far East [we] were sent home and I had to return the £10,000 we’d been given for food and accommodation”.

It is fashionable in many circles to loathe John Pilger, but not many Cambodians do. As he put it: “Henry Kissinger, whose bombing opened the door to the nightmare of Year Zero, is still at large.
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Kuroneko wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:52 pm It is fashionable in many circles to loathe John Pilger, but not many Cambodians do. As he put it: “Henry Kissinger, whose bombing opened the door to the nightmare of Year Zero, is still at large.
This is life, same goes on today with western support of kurds who are terrorists according to turkey and support of alquaeda when it was fighting the Russians and so on and on ad infinitum.
The guiding policy of superpower intervention is always :
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
And the main enemy for may years was communism so ancommunist country had to be opposed, Vietnam, Russia, China and vice versa, for them it was capitalism.
FFS we had catholic terrorists training in muslim terrorist camps in Libya, and there cannot be much stranger bedfellows than that.

It is political life and you will have as much chance of stopping cats chasing birds as of stopping the superpowers fighting proxy wars
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