British model SUNDAL ROY, now in Sihanoukville Cambodia, on Hitler, the Holocaust, and Jews as such

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John Bingham wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:32 pm
Ronny wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:12 pm
John Bingham wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:59 pm
that genius wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:52 am The Holocaust figure of 6 million is disputed by many. I personally don't know, I doubt anybody does have an accurate figure. I do think it should be subject to debate, like any other historical fact. my opinion is that if the truth is there, it will withstand naysayers. It's ironic that the same people that want to stifle debate on this topic vigorously engage creationists, who also base their stance on what they consider a 'special religion'.

I also find it interesting that up to 13 million (most estimate around 10 million) Congolese were murdered by that Belgian basement scum Leopold, and that gets very little attention. Many don't even know about it. I guess poor black lives don't matter, rich(er) white ones do.

The difference is that the Nazis were very systematic and kept records. They made these industrial-sized concentration camps, and many of these still stand. They were photographed and documented very well before and after the Nazis were defeated in western Europe. Where exactly did that 13 million figure come from? Adam Hochschild? Roger Casement? The Congo was a very remote place then, as much of it still is. The excesses of King Leopold's Congo Free State got a lot of attention after the 1905 Casement Report, that's hardly within living memory though and much has happened in the world since.
That's right. The Germans are renowned for keeping records of everything they do. That's why they can't find a single document that can show there was some grand plan to exterminate all the Jews.
There are thousands of documents and a whole lot of physical evidence and observer's reports. Some of the most damning are the Wannsee conference documents. Of course none of these are enough for Holocaust deniers who seem to live in a parallel universe. :?
Give me a link so I can see ONE document FROM ANY LEADER FROM THE NAZI PARTY that clearly states there was a plan to exterminate all Jews. I'll be waiting...forever...
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What does that mean? It didn't happen? Ludicrous.

It happened, they look kinda white, so it's important.

You want white on white hate? There you go.
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Ok, the whining I can live without.

Calculated wheedling, yeah, that, too.

Any locked dealing, does not promotea a free, open market. Not sure about that yet.

I like their Mediterranean women, though. :/
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John Bingham wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:32 pm
Ronny wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:12 pm
John Bingham wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:59 pm
that genius wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:52 am The Holocaust figure of 6 million is disputed by many. I personally don't know, I doubt anybody does have an accurate figure. I do think it should be subject to debate, like any other historical fact. my opinion is that if the truth is there, it will withstand naysayers. It's ironic that the same people that want to stifle debate on this topic vigorously engage creationists, who also base their stance on what they consider a 'special religion'.

I also find it interesting that up to 13 million (most estimate around 10 million) Congolese were murdered by that Belgian basement scum Leopold, and that gets very little attention. Many don't even know about it. I guess poor black lives don't matter, rich(er) white ones do.

The difference is that the Nazis were very systematic and kept records. They made these industrial-sized concentration camps, and many of these still stand. They were photographed and documented very well before and after the Nazis were defeated in western Europe. Where exactly did that 13 million figure come from? Adam Hochschild? Roger Casement? The Congo was a very remote place then, as much of it still is. The excesses of King Leopold's Congo Free State got a lot of attention after the 1905 Casement Report, that's hardly within living memory though and much has happened in the world since.
That's right. The Germans are renowned for keeping records of everything they do. That's why they can't find a single document that can show there was some grand plan to exterminate all the Jews.
There are thousands of documents and a whole lot of physical evidence and observer's reports. Some of the most damning are the Wannsee conference documents. Of course none of these are enough for Holocaust deniers who seem to live in a parallel universe. :?
The Jews have been using this "6 Million" figure since the beginning of the 20th Century. Very interesting, huh? I also find the definition of "Holocaust" very interesting and why the Jews chose this word over the alleged genocide of them as a people.
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This is stupid, splitting hairs.

Attempting to reduce the horror.

"ONLY 2 million were massacred!" WTF?!

You must be high, dudes.
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Ronny wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:16 pm
John Bingham wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:32 pm
Ronny wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:12 pm
John Bingham wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:59 pm
that genius wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:52 am The Holocaust figure of 6 million is disputed by many. I personally don't know, I doubt anybody does have an accurate figure. I do think it should be subject to debate, like any other historical fact. my opinion is that if the truth is there, it will withstand naysayers. It's ironic that the same people that want to stifle debate on this topic vigorously engage creationists, who also base their stance on what they consider a 'special religion'.

I also find it interesting that up to 13 million (most estimate around 10 million) Congolese were murdered by that Belgian basement scum Leopold, and that gets very little attention. Many don't even know about it. I guess poor black lives don't matter, rich(er) white ones do.

The difference is that the Nazis were very systematic and kept records. They made these industrial-sized concentration camps, and many of these still stand. They were photographed and documented very well before and after the Nazis were defeated in western Europe. Where exactly did that 13 million figure come from? Adam Hochschild? Roger Casement? The Congo was a very remote place then, as much of it still is. The excesses of King Leopold's Congo Free State got a lot of attention after the 1905 Casement Report, that's hardly within living memory though and much has happened in the world since.
That's right. The Germans are renowned for keeping records of everything they do. That's why they can't find a single document that can show there was some grand plan to exterminate all the Jews.
There are thousands of documents and a whole lot of physical evidence and observer's reports. Some of the most damning are the Wannsee conference documents. Of course none of these are enough for Holocaust deniers who seem to live in a parallel universe. :?
The Jews have been using this "6 Million" figure since the beginning of the 20th Century. Very interesting, huh? I also find the definition of "Holocaust" very interesting and why the Jews chose this word over the alleged genocide of them as a people.
Unlike you Ronny I actually knew quite a few Holocaust victims. if you want to take a pop at the disgusting behavior of Israel, feel free. But tis time to pack in trying to make excuses for the nazis
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Whether 6 million were killed or ONE was killed, it was wrong. End of.

And most sensible people know that hundreds of thousands were killed, even millions.

But why can't we debate it, like we debate the Congolese figures?

Debate is healthy. So why stifle it?

Surely only Nazis, commies and authoritarians do that?
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that genius wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:01 pm I'm personally not denying serious shit happened, I don't think any rational person is.

But I see some people very reluctant to accept 10m plus Congolese were systematically murdered.

Oh, but that was long ago...

Yet you're cool with the Jewish claim on territory in Palestine, based on 6000 year-old claims? LOL.

You want proof that 10m is a reasonable figure for dead Congolese, and most are more than willing to debate that.

Let's even accept just over half that figure to compromise, say 6mn, OK?

So 6 MILLION black people are systematically mutilated and slaughtered, they get zero compensation, zero recognition, almost unknown in history

6 million white people get slaughtered, they get compensation and recognition every day, the most publicised slaughter in human history.

But you're cool with the discrepancies?

That's not history, that's bias.
That's why so many people don't like Jews. They always expect special treatment. It's them first and everybody else comes later.
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Sure, you can say some Jews are still hysterical, and some numbers suspect. Yeah, and they think they're special, too, haha.

But, uh, discuss respectfully. It's like saying KR purge is propped up, too.

People FORGET. New generations are truly ignorant.

Look at PP. 10 years and people already are acting stupid out here.

Try not to forget the horror? I give you a pass, just for free discussion.

Would hate to see the discussion degenerate, though. Life is life, on a mass scale.
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Oh, yeah, this is funny.

I met a self-confessed Nazi. He was complaining of the Muslims in Germany.

I told him, "You Nazis killed too many Jews. Now the Muslims aren't held back by anyone!"

Funny world, innit?

In a strange twist of karma, Germans now fated to live side-by-side with the ancient enemies of Judaism?

Paying off bad karma through tolerance? Wow.
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Melvin Udall: Never, never, interrupt me, okay?

Not if there's a fire, not even if you hear the sound of a thud from my home and one week later there's a smell coming from there that can only be a decaying human body and you have to hold a hanky to your face because the stench is so thick that you think you're going to faint.

Even then, don't come knocking...Not for ANY reason.
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