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Ok, this is great article i just found by a journalist who was gagged from the newspapers here from reporting on the bad aspects of MFIs. And in 2005! Before the whole industry exploded into a current 3.2 billion dollar debt. Interestingly​, the only recent decent report I've read about MFIs here was also a letter to the editor of the Cambodia Daily, which unfortunately is behind a $2 a day paywall now.

Does any of it go towards what i said about the newspapers here having an agenda?

Thanks for that post KS, I'll reply to it tomorrow.

Anyhow, here is the journalist's right to reply.

"Letters to Phnom Penh Newspapers My way of being heard despite what editors think


Microfinance
[The first of these letters was printed in the Phnom Penh Post in September or October 2005. It produced a response from one Tom von Weissenberg, to which the second letter is a rebuttal. I don’t recall whether the second letter was printed.]

‘Role Model’ Bank

Your article about the Acleda Bank (“World Bank-IFC To Honor Acleda as ‘Role Model’”, September 23) quotes In Channy as saying that his bank charges 48 percent annual interest on small loans.

In ordinary English, this suggests that a borrower receives, say, $100, and at the end of one year pays $148 to the bank. That would be 48 percent simple interest.

However, Acleda loans (and most other small loans in Cambodia) are not repaid in this fashion. The borrower is charged a monthly interest rate and makes interest payments monthly. Acleda’s rate of 4% a month means that the borrower of $100 has the use of the full $100 for only one month; he or she returns $4 to the bank at the end of each month and therefore has the use of only $96 for the second month, $92 for the third month and so on.

By the start of the 12th month, the borrower has returned $44 and thus has the use of only $56 for the final month of the loan.

Over the course of the year, the real amount of the loan has been, not $100, but the average of the starting and finishing amounts, namely $100 + $56 divided by two, or $78. The real simple interest rate is therefore $48 divided by $78, or 61.5%. (In the past, Acleda sometimes charged 5% a month, which works out to almost 83% a year in simple interest.)

Freedom from corruption is certainly commendable, but it does not, by itself, produce any income. Usury seems to have far more to do with Acleda’s rise from a simple NGO to a multimillion dollar commercial bank. This casts a rather different light on its “incorruptibility”, which is more than just refusing to give or receive bribes.

Most NGOs enter Cambodian villages with the message, “We are here to help.” Did Acleda, in the interest of transparency, proclaim, “We are here to accumulate profits and become a bank.”?

That, after all, is what happened, and not by accident. The hard-earned riels of poor villagers paying interest of 61.5% or 83% are the source of Acleda’s wealth.

One would like to know exactly how the transfer of those funds to Acleda “benefited” the poor people who lost them. That is not the sort of question that has ever troubled the World Bank. But Cambodians should take note of what the WB considers “model” behavior.

Microcredit and the Philosophers’ Stone

Tom von Weissenberg (letter, October 3) challenges my calculation that a 4 percent monthly interest payment is the equivalent of an annual simple interest rate of 61.5 percent. He says I “forget” that the borrower should use his loan in order to make more money. He forgets that the use made of a loan has nothing to do with calculating the interest rate.

Even stranger is Weissenberg’s apparent belief that he has found the philosophers’ stone, which the alchemists thought would turn other substances into gold.

He assures us that $100 in microcredit provided to a villager will, in the course of a year, allow the family to spend $432 on their consumption ($36 a month for 12 months), and finish the year with a capital of $340. Furthermore, his villager has been able to pay $48 in interest, plus monthly expenses of $15, or $180 over the course of the year.

Add it all up, and it turns out that microfinance has transformed $100 into exactly $1,000. Moreover, Weissenberg assures us that there are 300,000 Cambodian families enjoying this magical expansion of wealth. In total, then, every year microfinance institutions transmute $30 million into $300 million for the benefit of poor Cambodians.

Clearly, we have microfinance to thank for the fact that there is no longer any poverty in Cambodia!

In the real world, things don’t work that way. The vast majority of borrowers in Cambodia have no chance at all of following the business course that Weissenberg recommends.

For example, a 1998 CDRI study, quoted in the 2004 UNDP publication, The Macroeconomics of Poverty Reduction in Cambodia, found that 90 percent of “very poor” borrowers and 78 percent of “poor” borrowers used their loans to buy rice or pay for medical treatment. Indeed, even 20 percent of “well-off” borrowers used their loans for those purposes.

Weissenberg says that the only “alternative” to microcredit is “usurers”. But lenders who charge 4 percent interest a month are engaging in usury, not providing an alternative to it.

Their rates may be lower than those of traditional village moneylenders, but their conditions are usually much harsher, which is why villagers often decide to stick with the devil they know.

And most of the time, the relationship between microfinance bodies and village moneylenders is not competitive but symbiotic. The Womyn’s Agenda for Change has been interviewing rural villagers in five provinces about their daily lives, including questions of debt. Over and over, they have been told of farmers who borrow from a microcredit NGO and then, when they cannot repay the principal, avoid forfeiting their land, if only for a short time, by borrowing from a village moneylender in order to repay the NGO. There are even quite a few instances of multiple borrowings: first from the NGO, then from the moneylender to pay the NGO, then from the same or a different NGO to pay the moneylender, then from the moneylender again—with the borrower usually deeper in debt each time.

WAC even found cases where a village moneylender was borrowing money from a microcredit institution at 4 or 5 percent a month and lending it to villagers at 12 or 15 percent a month. That is a real way to convert $100 of microfinance into $1,000, and it bears no relationship to Weissenberg’s picture.


Finally, I did not say that the World Bank was “foolish” about microfinance usury. I said it was complicit

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Re: Tuk Tuks and MFIs

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What to do ? Outlaw monthly interest ? Put a cap on interest lending rates ? Or stop lending to the poor ?
I really don't know anything about this or how it works in other countries - how to enforce ethical money-lending in developing countries where there is little transparency and very little rule of law.

I was shocked when I found out that in Cambodia, interest is paid monthly like this. I did try to explain to friends and family why this is not a good way to borrow money.
But what do you expect people to do when there's no alternative, because this is how it works in Cambodia ?
The Cambodian people I know who borrow money like this are not starving, they are gambling that the land they buy on credit will increase in value, or the restaurant they open will be a huge success. They want to be rich and provide for their families.

What to do ? If one institution won't lend the money, they will go elsewhere. The interest terms seem to be irrelevant.The dream is there and it needs money.
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Anchor Moy wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:37 am What to do ? Outlaw monthly interest ? Put a cap on interest lending rates ? Or stop lending to the poor ?
I really don't know anything about this or how it works in other countries - how to enforce ethical money-lending in developing countries where there is little transparency and very little rule of law.

I was shocked when I found out that in Cambodia, interest is paid monthly like this. I did try to explain to friends and family why this is not a good way to borrow money.
But what do you expect people to do when there's no alternative, because this is how it works in Cambodia ?
The Cambodian people I know who borrow money like this are not starving, they are gambling that the land they buy on credit will increase in value, or the restaurant they open will be a huge success. They want to be rich and provide for their families.

What to do ? If one institution won't lend the money, they will go elsewhere. The interest terms seem to be irrelevant.The dream is there and it needs money.
Let the industry experts who criticize the MFIs and MFOs answer that. Some of their recommendations​ are in the full report below.

From 2002!
"People don't have the skills to use the money for small business and can't

do calculations," he explains. "This is very serious. NGOs should take

into consideration how they operate because it damages people's lives."

Regional comparisons make interesting reading. AusAID says interest rates vary widely

between different countries: specialized micro-finance providers in Bangla-desh charge

20-30 percent a year, while rates of between 30-70 percent are the norm in the Philippines,

although subsidized government and donor projects often charge less.

Nepal's Nirdhan Utthan Bank charges 20 percent on group-based loans, but best of

the bunch is Vietnam, where the Vietnam Bank for the Poor is the only source of significant

domestic funding for MFIs. It caps the rate micro-credit lenders can loan on its

funds at only 7 percent a year.

The National Bank of Cambodia (NBC) and the Rural Development Bank (RDB) told the

Senate forum that rates here are too high.

"The interest rate is very high," said Kim Vada, NBC's deputy director

of supervision. "The NBC has held seminars to try to explain to MFIs how to

bring down the interest rates, but interest rates cannot be defined [by the government]

because Cambodia is a free market economy."

Well it took 15 years and the PM's private survey to force the NBC to bring the interest rates down. They're still one of the highest rates in Asia. Note how Vietnam funds it's MFI projects. Bloody commies.

She said the privatization of natural resources, health care and education costs

have increased people's vulnerability so that illness or floods will tip them over

the edge into a cycle of poverty, debt and migration.

Another major criticism is that some defaulters are forced to sell their land or

other assets to repay. In 2000, Oxfam-GB studied 39 families in two districts. It

found that micro-credit loans were a crucial factor contributing to landlessness.

Almost half the respondents said that they would not have sold their land if they

had not received a loan.

Rasmussen believes some NGOs are loaning money to people who don't have the ability

to repay.

"This forces people into debt and often they may lose land, a cow or a moto.

In the worst possible scenario the husband may have to go to Thailand to work and

they may have to sell their daughter to a brothel," she says.

WAC's Barbero concurs, saying that micro-finance can lead to poverty, migration,

bad health, and young women having to seek employment in brothels.

"This makes people very vulnerable; they have no education and have to sell

off land to pay back debts," she says.
Things have increased 10,000 fold in the MFI/MFO loan saturation since 2002.

And what about those loan sharks? Aren't they worse?
The idea that MFOs have forced down interest rates due to increased competition is

widespread. However some point out the philosophical difference between private business

people loaning cash, and NGOs which are not-for-profit, donor-funded organizations

with different ideals.

"The claim that these NGOs are better than money-lenders is ludicrous,"

says WAC's Barbero. "To say one form of extortion is less harmful than another

is irrelevant."

And there is no doubt that some people who fall into arrears are forced to borrow

money from the loan sharks to pay back their debt to the MFOs. Elizabeth Abrera,

credit program manager for Catholic Relief Services/TPC, admits that does happen,

but says it is impossible to follow up since her organization has 27,000 clients
I'm going to post the full article with the hope that at least one person reads it.

Again from 2002. Lots about how NGOs started and ran them and the rise from the beginning of ACLEDA.

http://m.phnompenhpost.com/national/mic ... lping-whom

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The Phnom Penh Post

Micro-finance: who's helping whom?

25 May, 2002 Caroline Green

PRISON OR PROSPERITY? Critics question whether micro-finance

operators really are helping the poor


The practice of micro-financing was dragged into the spotlight after a recent

Senate hearing criticized micro-finance institutions (MFIs) for their high interest

rates. Senators said that loan rates of up to 60 percent a year cripple the poor,

line the pockets of MFIs and increase rural poverty.

Those rates come in a country that has enjoyed inflation rates in the low single

figures in recent years, a trend the Cambodian Development Resource Institute ascribes

to dollarization of the economy.

Senators also cited widespread lack of education, poor training of borrowers, and

the absence of micro-finance legislation as major factors forcing some rural borrowers

to sell land and possessions to repay loans.

Critics of micro-finance operators (MFOs) are not only found in the Senate. Director

of Oxfam's Womyn's Agenda for Change (WAC), Rosanna Barbero, says micro-finance has

been a failure in terms of its touted goal of alleviating poverty.

"It puts people in a cycle of poverty," she says. "It is a revenue

spinner, a tool of control. It is used by NGOs so they can mobilize the people when

they need to."

Yet credit schemes are run successfully in some developing nations. Predictably,

within Cambodia opinions differ on the best way forward, but proponents insist that

it reaches those who are too poor to borrow from commercial banks and helps tens

of thousands take control of their lives.

In Channy, director at Acleda Bank, the country's biggest MFO, takes that view.

"Micro-finance plays a big role in poverty alleviation in Cambodia," says

Channy. "It can help reduce transaction costs of customers. It helps people

generate income and provides job opportunities."

Critics respond that it can do those things, but question the way the various programs

are run.

Cambodia's banking system was completely destroyed during the Khmer Rouge period.

These days around 90 percent of the population has no access to formal credit.

So in the early 1990s NGOs started providing credit services for the rural poor as

part of their development programs. Acleda was established as an NGO in 1993 by the

International Labor Organization and the UN Development Programme. It registered

as a specialized bank in October 2000. Today it is the country's biggest MFO with

a loan portfolio of nearly $22 million.

There are between 50-70 registered and unregistered small lenders. Two are licensed

MFIs: EMT and Hattha Kaksekar. Around 25 more small loan operators are registered

with the NBC. At least as many operate without accreditation.

The top five players dominate the market: Acleda, EMT, Hattha Kaksekar, PRASAC and

Seilanithih account for 84 percent of all loans. International NGOs (INGOs) operate

credit programs and also fund local NGOs to start their own schemes.

Continue reading
Spoiler:


A major bone of contention is that loans don't generally reach the very poorest.

Lenders want assurances that clients can repay loans, which rules out many of those

who are most in need.

Independent consultant Karen Rasmussen, who wrote her masters thesis on micro-credit

in Cambodia, says that in reality, "a great many of the micro-credit programs

in Cambodia are not lending to the very poor, sometimes not even to the middle poor".

That, says Margaret Robinson, author of several books on the subject, is common around

the world: sustainable micro-finance can only serve the "active poor".

She says the problems of the ultra poor have to be met by governments.

And that seems to be the approach MFOs are taking here. Rommel Caringal, program

manager at World Vision, says the NGO lends money to "the poorest of the entrepreneurial

poor".

Neither Acleda nor EMT targets the poorest of the poor. Instead they focus on those

with the skills and business ideas to generate income.

The aspect that causes most outrage is the amount the poor pay for access to cash.

In a country where commercial banks lend at 18 percent a year, many people are asking

why the poor are charged as much as 60 percent for small loans.

Critics are particularly irked that INGOs, who have a mandate to help alleviate poverty

and are given international funding to do so, charge almost as much as commercial

heavyweights like Acleda.

The most common reason cited is the high cost of providing credit services in rural

areas. Loan sizes are small, transaction costs are covered by the lender, transport

is expensive, as are staff located in remote areas. Acleda also blames the prevailing

business environment.

"There is illegal tax collection that makes businesses fail and security is

a problem," says Acleda's In Channy. "If women travel alone to sell vegetables

they will get robbed, so they need two people and security, and transport costs increase."

Concern, an Irish charity, has been running micro-credit schemes here since 1999.

Last year its loan portfolio was $700,000 and its 16,000 clients were being charged

3 percent a month. Like most INGOs, its funding comes from donors who rely on the

likes of Concern to supply affordable credit to the poor.

Country director Theresa McDonnell admits the rates it charges would be regarded

as illegal in some countries. While most INGOs told the Post the reason they charge

such high rates is to cover the high costs of running their programs, Concern was

more forthright: its program costs are met by donors, and all the interest earned

goes to building up its loan portfolio for future years in the interests of sustainability.

McDonnell says that as far as she is aware, that is quite common among INGOs operating

similar programs.

WAC's Barbero feels that expecting people to pay even 40 percent a year is absurd.

"If international agencies give grants to NGOs to do poverty alleviation through

micro-finance, I don't agree with that because I don't see it as poverty alleviation,"

she says. "Rates of 40-60 percent are criminal. No one in the world would borrow

money at 60 percent because no business would give you enough return."

However World Vision says its experience shows that its annual rate of 48 percent

doesn't put access to credit out of the reach of the poor.

"Our 3,700 clients think these interest rates are achievable and that number

is growing every year," says World Vision's senior operations manager Andy Leigh.

Other operators disagree. Team leader at PADEK, Kep Kannaro, says charging more than

3 percent a month makes repayment by the rural poor extremely difficult.

"People don't have the skills to use the money for small business and can't

do calculations," he explains. "This is very serious. NGOs should take

into consideration how they operate because it damages people's lives."

Regional comparisons make interesting reading. AusAID says interest rates vary widely

between different countries: specialized micro-finance providers in Bangla-desh charge

20-30 percent a year, while rates of between 30-70 percent are the norm in the Philippines,

although subsidized government and donor projects often charge less.

Nepal's Nirdhan Utthan Bank charges 20 percent on group-based loans, but best of

the bunch is Vietnam, where the Vietnam Bank for the Poor is the only source of significant

domestic funding for MFIs. It caps the rate micro-credit lenders can on-loan its

funds at only 7 percent a year.

The National Bank of Cambodia (NBC) and the Rural Development Bank (RDB) told the

Senate forum that rates here are too high.

"The interest rate is very high," said Kim Vada, NBC's deputy director

of supervision. "The NBC has held seminars to try to explain to MFIs how to

bring down the interest rates, but interest rates cannot be defined [by the government]

because Cambodia is a free market economy."

The RDB explained that under the loan rules of the Asian Development Bank, interest

rates could not be fixed. However, ADB country director Urooj Malik, denies his bank

has any say over the rates.

"We want to see more efficiency by the RDB for who they lend to, but we don't

control the MFIs," says Malik. "We do not intervene in the market - it

is up to market efficiency and the viability of these operations."

WAC's Barbero says that micro-finance must be placed in the wider context of the

conditions the IMF and World Bank place on Cambodia including trade liberalization.

She said the privatization of natural resources, health care and education costs

have increased people's vulnerability so that illness or floods will tip them over

the edge into a cycle of poverty, debt and migration.

Another major criticism is that some defaulters are forced to sell their land or

other assets to repay. In 2000, Oxfam-GB studied 39 families in two districts. It

found that micro-credit loans were a crucial factor contributing to landlessness.

Almost half the respondents said that they would not have sold their land if they

had not received a loan.

Rasmussen believes some NGOs are loaning money to people who don't have the ability

to repay.

"This forces people into debt and often they may lose land, a cow or a moto.

In the worst possible scenario the husband may have to go to Thailand to work and

they may have to sell their daughter to a brothel," she says.

WAC's Barbero concurs, saying that micro-finance can lead to poverty, migration,

bad health, and young women having to seek employment in brothels.

"This makes people very vulnerable; they have no education and have to sell

off land to pay back debts," she says.

Acleda was embarrassed last December when Prime Minister HE accused the bank

of jailing numerous debt defaulters. The bank response was that only one person went

to jail for non-payment, and claims that since 1993 only 61 clients have lost their

land.

EMT says around ten of its 74,000 clients lose their land each year. Acleda suggests

the reasons for land loss are not down to the loans, but previous bad debts or family

issues.

MFOs say a key issue in providing their service is getting quick and sustainable

financial services to the poor.

"From a client perspective the rates aren't the issue. The focus is quick access

to money," says Paul Luchtenburg, regional technical advisor to World Relief.

The methodology behind providing fast access to capital is the balloon approach,

in which MFOs require monthly interest repayments, with the principal repaid at the

end of the loan cycle. The alternative is monthly repayments that combine interest

and capital, much like a mortgage on a house.

A staff member at AusAID, which gives money to several MFOs to loan, questions the

method.

"The balloon approach is unique to Cambodia," she says, "and everyone

who comes here is alarmed. Surely there is more risk in leaving someone to pay back

capital at the end?"

Before MFOs arrived, the rural poor relied on local money lenders, who charged as

much as 240 percent a year. Many INGOs cite these rates to show how much better off

people are under their schemes.

"Money lenders charge 10-20 percent a month," says World Vision's Caringal.

"Now our clients can borrow at a much lower interest rate, and people are very

happy."

The idea that MFOs have forced down interest rates due to increased competition is

widespread. However some point out the philosophical difference between private business

people loaning cash, and NGOs which are not-for-profit, donor-funded organizations

with different ideals.

"The claim that these NGOs are better than money-lenders is ludicrous,"

says WAC's Barbero. "To say one form of extortion is less harmful than another

is irrelevant."

And there is no doubt that some people who fall into arrears are forced to borrow

money from the loan sharks to pay back their debt to the MFOs. Elizabeth Abrera,

credit program manager for Catholic Relief Services/TPC, admits that does happen,

but says it is impossible to follow up since her organization has 27,000 clients.

All the MFOs the Post spoke to emphasised the importance of running sustainable programs.

If they charged lower interest rates, their operations would fold, leaving the poor

with no access to credit.

What is more, they say donors require proof of program sustainability. For example,

AusAID has granted World Vision around $500,000 over three years for its program.

It says that although very few projects are in reality sustainable, funding proposals

must show moves towards sustainability. MFOs also say they cannot rely on outside

help forever.

"Donor grants aren't always there when you want them," says CRS's Abrera.

"Many INGOs and local NGOs are dropping by the wayside because there aren't

enough donors to fund them."

Veena Krishnamurthy, of Australian Catholic Relief, which works with local partners

on self-help group programs, says a balance must be struck between financial sustainability

and reaching the poor.

"If you are helping the poor there must be some subsidies," she says. "In

Cambodia NGOs seem to be losing sight of this. There needs to be a recognition that

there's a certain segment of the population - the very poor - to whom NGOs need to

provide subsidized credit."

And there are alternative models. Both PADEK and Church World Service (CWS) operate

self-help groups rather than credit schemes. The key difference is that all interest

repayments go to the village committee rather than the NGO. CWS program officer Olivet

Visda says their donors still support them even though they are not making a profit.

"We strongly believe in the self-help concept and we are non-profit," she

says. "We don't charge interest because our objective is capacity building."

Calls for enforcement of legislation have grown louder in recent months, and not

just from politicians. Both Acleda and EMT want to see the industry more accountable,

and believe that regulating lenders will help.

That is on its way. By the end of this year all NGOs with an outstanding loan portfolio

of more than $25,000 must register with the NBC. Those outfits with more than $250,000

of outstanding loans or more than 1,000 borrowers must obtain a license and register

as an MFI. Six small loan operators, including Concern, World Relief, World Vision

and CRS are in the process of setting themselves up as MFIs.

Acleda's In Channy says it is about time the INGOs registered as MFIs. He says the

fact they are subsidized and don't pay taxes means some have operated unprofes-sionally,

creating bad practices that spoil micro-finance.

"We are there to balance social and commercial objectives," he says. "Private

shareholders want profit and we want to maintain the social balance by lending to

the lower segment of the market."

Some question how it is possible that an MFI, which operates as a business, can possibly

serve the poor and operate commercially. Consultant Karen Rasmussen says some INGOs

could end up marginalized by the requirement that they register as MFIs.

"International NGOs have a mandate to work with the very poor, so they will

be caught between the government and international headquarters," Rasmussen

explains. "I think some NGOs may shut down their credit programs rather than

not work with the rural poor. If this happens, people will lose access to credit

and return to moneylenders charging outrageous rates of interest."

However both World Vision and Catholic Relief Services believe that becoming formal

profit-making institutions will not stop them from working with the poorest.

"It is very clear we are not doing this for profit," says World Vision's

Caringal. "We will be looking for socially responsible shareholders."

CRS's Abrera agrees: "You can maintain your social vision even though you have

shareholders."

Other NGOs question whether the government realistically has the capacity to enforce

the new regulation. There are tens of thousands of micro-credit clients throughout

the country, as well as an unknown number of credit operators. Not least, enforcers

are based in Phnom Penh.

Probably the least controversial aspect of the micro-finance debate is that the rural

poor desperately need access to credit. It is on how best to provide these funds

that views differ. Most commentators agree that to be successful, credit schemes

must operate alongside other development programs. Rasmussen says that, "micro-credit

can be a powerful tool for development, but it must be viewed as only one part of

a whole approach to community-based rebuilding".

Most operators are careful to point out that micro-finance schemes are not the only

solution to poverty, and must be implemented alongside health and education development

programs.

"Micro-finance is an element, but you need many activities to help people,"

says EMT's general manager Chea Phalarin. "Health care and infrastructure are

also needed."

MFOs say that while their programs do help alleviate poverty, their impact is modest.

Acleda's In Channy maintains that although micro-finance doesn't help all those who

take out loans, the lives of the majority are improved.

CRS's Abrera says comparisons are helpful in assessing the impact of her organization.

"If you compare women in 1995 when I started and now, they are not becoming

rich. [That] takes time - you see small changes," she says. "They

have better clothing, healthier children;the fronts of their houses are wood instead

of thatch."

World Vision

World Vision has been running micro-credit operations in Cambodia since 1990. It

is registered as a small-loan operator. Two years ago it separated the management

and staffing of its micro-enterprise development (MED) unit from its development

program to increase its efficiency and sustainability.

It says that at the current rate of growth it will need to register as an MFI by

the end of the year. Total loan portfolio is $114,000. That covers 3,700 clients

in four provinces: Kandal, Takeo, Kampong Speu and Battambang.

Eighty three percent of borrowers are women, who loan an average $50 each at 4 percent

interest per month on a declining rate. World Vision's MED program manager Rommel

Caringal says its clients earn between $1-3 a day. They are classified as "vulnerable

in the community; big families with dilapidated houses who rarely own over two hectares

of land".

The NGO's credit agents have an average 285 clients each borrowing $50. At the moment

it is the middle of the loan cycle, with each agent lending $8,585 per month at 4

percent interest. That generates $343 interest a month.

Monthly running costs per credit agent are between $400-$420 including branch costs,

salaries, gasoline, administration, loan loss and motorbike depreciation. That does

not include head office staff and training. The NGO says that interest repayments

only cover 20 percent of its running costs with 80 percent covered by international

donors.

Where did it all start ?


The concept of micro-finance originated in Bangladesh in 1976 when Muhammad Yunas

set up the Grameen Bank to lend small amounts of money to poor rural women. Now more

than 30 million micro-loans are dispersed every year worldwide, and according to

the World Bank that is increasing at an annual rate of 30-40 percent.

The Asian Development Bank (ADB) defines micro-finance as the provision of a broad

range of financial services such as deposits, loans, payment services, money transfers

and insurance to the poor and lower income households and micro-enterprises.

Three sources provide micro-finance services in Cambodia: formal institutions, semi-formal

institutions such as NGOs, and informal sources such as moneylenders.

More than $30 million has been disbursed under credit schemes in Cambodia, allowing

20 percent of rural people access to funds. Between 75-100 percent of micro-credit

clients are women. Demand for credit far exceeds supply: it is estimated that 65

percent of demand is not being met.

The country's small lenders are a hodgepodge of 50-70 registered and unregistered

bodies. There are two licensed micro-finance institutions (MFIs), Ennatien Moulethan

Tchonnebat (EMT) and Hattha Kaksekar. Acleda is a specialized bank, 25 are registered

with the National Bank of Cambodia (NBC) as small loan operators, and at least 25

more operate without any accreditation.

The top five players dominate the market, accounting for 84 percent of all loans.

They are: Acleda, EMT, Hattha Kaksekar, PRASAC and Seilanithih. International NGOs

also operate credit programs and jointly fund local NGOs to implement schemes.

Most loans are for agricultural production or small business operations, and range

from $20 per person to $5,000 for individual business loans.

Average interest rates on loans range from 3-5 percent per month, or 36-60 percent

a year. Collateral such as property or livestock is not required for most group loans,

but is for larger individual and business loans.

Private money lenders by comparison charge between 10-30 percent a month, although

that has come down in some areas. Commercial banks, including Mekong Bank and Cambodia

Commercial Bank, charge 18 percent interest on loans a year, but collateral is required.

Some operators require monthly repayments of both principal and interest, similar

to a mortgage. However the balloon method is very common: interest repayments are

made monthly, with the entire principal paid at the end of the loan cycle. Average

loan cycles range from 4-12 months. Loan repayments for most operators are 95 percent

or higher.

There are many methodologies of credit, the most common being solidarity groups.

This involves between five and 15 people jointly taking out a loan, with all members

responsible for repayment of the loan and interest. Individual business loans are

also offered.

Some NGOs operate self-help groups in which village banking committees, which decide

on the loan and interest rate, are set up. Interest repayments go to the committee,

not the NGOs.
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paper pushers with no boots on the ground giving thesis on micro financing in KOW, laughable, why post this article that is published in 2002?
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bolueeleh wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:01 am paper pushers with no boots on the ground giving thesis on micro financing in KOW, laughable, why post this article that is published in 2002?
Who exactly are these paper pushers you're talking about? Journalists? Lmfao.
Or groups that work closely with villagers and have done so for years. :facepalm:

There's always one isn't there? Except in Cambodia where there are a few more.
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AlonzoPartriz wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:13 am
bolueeleh wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:01 am paper pushers with no boots on the ground giving thesis on micro financing in KOW, laughable, why post this article that is published in 2002?
Who exactly are these paper pushers you're talking about? Journalists? Lmfao.
Or groups that work closely with villagers and have done so for years. :facepalm:

There's always one isn't there? Except in Cambodia where there are a few more.
can i ask what is your interest in MFI to begin with? do you want to start a MFI? or are you already operating one but now faces problems so you airing your grievances online? not trying to be mean or anything but just curious and know where you are coming from. thanks
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bolueeleh wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:20 am
AlonzoPartriz wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:13 am
bolueeleh wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:01 am paper pushers with no boots on the ground giving thesis on micro financing in KOW, laughable, why post this article that is published in 2002?
Who exactly are these paper pushers you're talking about? Journalists? Lmfao.
Or groups that work closely with villagers and have done so for years. :facepalm:

There's always one isn't there? Except in Cambodia where there are a few more.
can i ask what is your interest in MFI to begin with? do you want to start a MFI? or are you already operating one but now faces problems so you airing your grievances online? not trying to be mean or anything but just curious and know where you are coming from. thanks
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AlonzoPartriz wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:27 am
can i ask what is your interest in MFI to begin with? do you want to start a MFI? or are you already operating one but now faces problems so you airing your grievances online? not trying to be mean or anything but just curious and know where you are coming from. thanks
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bolueeleh wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:53 amok, a well mannered question met with personal sarcastic attack, now we know where you are coming from, goodbye asshole, end of convo
Normally I'd stay out of this, but tbf you did also dismiss the report with your remark about paper-pushers, I think his sarcasm was in response to that, not your later polite question...which, though on the face of it seems polite, could be viewed as kind of snarky, given your 'paper-pusher remark. Why should eh have to explain his interest?

If I say I'm interested in whatever, and post on it', do I have to explain why?
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To be honest, he seemed to be asking the general question of " Why are there socialists in the world mummy?"
There's no real way of answering that if a grown man still hasn't worked it out.
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