CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!
Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!
OD -- you need to get your facts straight:OrangeDragon wrote: For someone who was participating... you got the sequence of events backwards as well... people we doing the "hang in there" posts before LTO asked. Selective memory? Then the only ones after that was Soi Dog attacking everyone for patronizing her because she was a chick (which they weren't... at least I wasn't), and people responding that it's NOT why they were doing it. As for "have you ever seen this for a male poster?" yes... I have. I've had people say it supporting my posts on 440 when being harassed by some of "The Club" in various ways (including the thread where I was banned) and I've seen it done for others. Hell, people were doing it in HERE for Andy well before they were doing it for Joon in fact. You just skim those parts?
Refer to page 66 of this thread:
Wed 1:24am HotDigr offers the first compliment --refers to Joon as "A breath of fresh air"
Wed 3:48am LTO expresses surprise that Joon is a female
Wed 5:55am Cowshed Cowboy advises joon to 'hang in there'
Wed 6:31am Soi Dog raises issue about giving female posters 'special praise' just for being female.
Wed 10:23am Joon contests Soi Dog's post
Wed 1:23pm Stroppy is the first to raise fact Joon is not posting in her first language
Wed 8:29pm Soi Dog contest's Joon's post
Wed 11:05pm Tim Linkinwater calls Soi Dog a misogynist
... Multiple attacks on Soi Dog
As to AiA ---- as far as I know I have not seen him here. Posters here seem to have a "love him" or "hate him" attitude.
And if you are telling me he got "hang in there" comments here then post links or it did not happen.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!
Rain Dog wrote:OrangeDragon wrote:
As to AiA ---- as far as I know I have not seen him here. Posters here seem to have a "love him" or "hate him" attitude.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!
U have too much time on your handsRain Dog wrote:OD -- you need to get your facts straight:OrangeDragon wrote: For someone who was participating... you got the sequence of events backwards as well... people we doing the "hang in there" posts before LTO asked. Selective memory? Then the only ones after that was Soi Dog attacking everyone for patronizing her because she was a chick (which they weren't... at least I wasn't), and people responding that it's NOT why they were doing it. As for "have you ever seen this for a male poster?" yes... I have. I've had people say it supporting my posts on 440 when being harassed by some of "The Club" in various ways (including the thread where I was banned) and I've seen it done for others. Hell, people were doing it in HERE for Andy well before they were doing it for Joon in fact. You just skim those parts?
Refer to page 66 of this thread:
Wed 1:24am HotDigr offers the first compliment --refers to Joon as "A breath of fresh air"
Wed 3:48am LTO expresses surprise that Joon is a female
Wed 5:55am Cowshed Cowboy advises joon to 'hang in there'
Wed 6:31am Soi Dog raises issue about giving female posters 'special praise' just for being female.
Wed 10:23am Joon contests Soi Dog's post
Wed 1:23pm Stroppy is the first to raise fact Joon is not posting in her first language
Wed 8:29pm Soi Dog contest's Joon's post
Wed 11:05pm Tim Linkinwater calls Soi Dog a misogynist
... Multiple attacks on Soi Dog
As to AiA ---- as far as I know I have not seen him here. Posters here seem to have a "love him" or "hate him" attitude.
And if you are telling me he got "hang in there" comments here then post links or it did not happen.
as to if someone is a male or female
affects me not in the least nor would i treat their comments any different and cant understand why anyone would.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!
Raindog, that's a good exercise but if you're gonna do that, you should quote what is relevant and actually showing that Hotdigr was not praising me because I'm a woman but because he approves of my posting style and intellectual approach:Rain Dog wrote:OD -- you need to get your facts straight:OrangeDragon wrote: For someone who was participating... you got the sequence of events backwards as well... people we doing the "hang in there" posts before LTO asked. Selective memory? Then the only ones after that was Soi Dog attacking everyone for patronizing her because she was a chick (which they weren't... at least I wasn't), and people responding that it's NOT why they were doing it. As for "have you ever seen this for a male poster?" yes... I have. I've had people say it supporting my posts on 440 when being harassed by some of "The Club" in various ways (including the thread where I was banned) and I've seen it done for others. Hell, people were doing it in HERE for Andy well before they were doing it for Joon in fact. You just skim those parts?
Refer to page 66 of this thread:
Wed 1:24am HotDigr offers the first compliment --refers to Joon as "A breath of fresh air"
Wed 3:48am LTO expresses surprise that Joon is a female
Wed 5:55am Cowshed Cowboy advises joon to 'hang in there'
Wed 6:31am Soi Dog raises issue about giving female posters 'special praise' just for being female.
Wed 10:23am Joon contests Soi Dog's post
Wed 1:23pm Stroppy is the first to raise fact Joon is not posting in her first language
Wed 8:29pm Soi Dog contest's Joon's post
Wed 11:05m Tim Linkinwater calls Soi Dog a misogynist
... Multiple attacks on Soi Dog
As to AiA ---- as fa as I know I have not seen him here. Posters here seem to have a "love him" or "hate him" attitude.
And if you are telling me he got "hang in there" comments here then post links or it did not happen.
Which, if I think is what you commended Nirvana and I for in the K440 thread.HoTDigr wrote: She gets attacked a lot, but doesn't back down from her beliefs and very rarely, if ever, makes a personal attack on others instead of attacks their argument ( which is the Golden Rule in debating. Make it personal and you have LOST, no argument about that at all). I think some of us ( myself included) could learn a bit from her attitude.
I don't expect anybody to cut me slack because I'm a woman, but likewise I do expect that nobody will give me a hard time or refuse to acknowledge my merits because I'm a woman.Raindog wrote:you [Nirvana and Joon] both presented your arguments articulately. Certainly no "Cat Fight" ---- and even if it were it would be no worse than the dick measuring and pissing contests we guys get into here.
However, I won't lie. If some posters hadn't expressed their appreciation of my posts, I would've given up long ago and retreated into my shell. It lifted my spirits to know that somehow I'm doing something right. So my sincere, warm thanks to them, they know who they are.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!
Thanks for the insult and -ve karma.logos wrote:*Not Alibaba as he's obviously dysfunctional and incapable of coherent thoughts when it comes to female posters.
For future reference the appropriate way to respond to a poster you disagree with is to post rebuttals to their arguments in the relevant thread.
If you can engage in mature and polite discussion and debate with me on the points you disagree with I would be happy to repatriate the points I took from you. I enjoy debating and welcome you to join in.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!
I'm going to guess that whatever post you're referring to were a joke or something. He seems very level headed and (occasionally) coherent.logos wrote:
*Not Alibaba as he's obviously dysfunctional and incapable of coherent thoughts when it comes to female posters.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!
I commented on joon in the context of people talking about joon. Assuming that I did it because she is female based on nothing other than temporal contiguity hints at something about the person who would assume that, especially considering the quickness with which this assumption was made and the degree of effort and ink being put into trying to support it. Reminds me a bit of the sort of perennially angry men you meet sometimes these days, grumbling incessantly anytime a woman or minority gets a good job that it must be because they are a woman or a minority, not because they deserved it. There is often a fear and prejudice behind those sorts of sentiments - a failure of self-esteem, perhaps even misogyny (and is often accompanied by other gender phobias such as the homophobic comment made shortly before by soi dog about ali's post.) If we are going to start speculating on the unstated personal motivations of others, there would seem to be more evidence that soi dog has some issues with women than that I commented positively on joon (and negatively on Nirvana) based on her sex.Â
And just to be clear, that is not an ad hominem attack but an analysis of another poster's hidden motivations made in the context of talking about the hidden motivations of other posters.
And just to be clear, that is not an ad hominem attack but an analysis of another poster's hidden motivations made in the context of talking about the hidden motivations of other posters.
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!
Joon --- there is no need for me to go back and restate every point that has been made in every post. OD accused me having the sequence wrong. I went back and demonstrated to him that HE was wrong in his assertion by showing the chronology of the posts.Joon wrote: Raindog, that's a good exercise but if you're gonna do that, you should quote what is relevant and actually showing that Hotdigr was not praising me because I'm a woman but because he approves of my posting style and intellectual approach:
Which, if I think is what you commended Nirvana and I for in the K440 thread.
I don't expect anybody to cut me slack because I'm a woman, but likewise I do expect that nobody will give me a hard time or refuse to acknowledge my merits because I'm a woman.
However, I won't lie. If some posters hadn't expressed their appreciation of my posts, I would've given up long ago and retreated into my shell. It lifted my spirits to know that somehow I'm doing something right. So my sincere, warm thanks to them, they know who they are.
As to the comments I made on K440, absolutely I was positive towards your presentation of your argument. I thought you shredded Nirvana on that thread. I however felt no need to consider either of your genders nor did I feel the need to tell Nirvana to "hang in there" just because I thought you were winning your argument.
Sorry but if you want double standards based on gender, I am not the guy for that.
As to your last point -- sure everybody likes to get positive feedback sometimes --- but I am starting to think you are making a lot of drama over this.
"Retreated"? Why? because some people disagreed with you?
This is a largely un-moderated internet forum. You should expect to have your views challenged some times.
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The Rum pours strong and thin. Beat out the dustman with the Rain Dogs;
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Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!
The person with more than double my post count, takes the time to tell me I have too much time on my handsphuketrichard wrote:
U have too much time on your hands
as to if someone is a male or female
affects me not in the least nor would i treat their comments any different and cant understand why anyone would.
Taxi, we'd rather walk. Huddle a doorway with the rain dogs
The Rum pours strong and thin. Beat out the dustman with the Rain Dogs;
The Rum pours strong and thin. Beat out the dustman with the Rain Dogs;
Re: CEO and Khmer440 reach a GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT!
Haha --- you almost had me looking for a new poster called "Marmite"EdinWigan wrote:Rain Dog wrote:OrangeDragon wrote:
As to AiA ---- as far as I know I have not seen him here. Posters here seem to have a "love him" or "hate him" attitude.
AiA is the New! Marmite
Then it hit me
Marmite --- British Humor
As a Yank I have never tasted the stuff.
Taxi, we'd rather walk. Huddle a doorway with the rain dogs
The Rum pours strong and thin. Beat out the dustman with the Rain Dogs;
The Rum pours strong and thin. Beat out the dustman with the Rain Dogs;
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