Computer and Voltage issues help
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help
As I suggested in the above post, if you have a normal desktop with a 400w power supply, you just need a UPS that matches its power requirements - ie minimal consumption costs incurred for the UPS.StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:27 pmCan't find any reasonable data on whether a UPS kicks your power bill, half suggests no change, others suggest barely recordable change.juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:24 pmEverything uses some power, but the UPS is basically the same as a lap top power supply - a voltage regulator with an overload cut out and a battery. The bigger the UPS, the bigger the cost in running it. But you would be hard pushed to need 4kw for a UPS unless you're mining bitcoins or something.StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:51 pmWell that sucks. Now googling to see if UPS do the same/similar...juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:49 pmBoth, iirc the digital one's are a bit better. Average consumption is anything from a third more to double
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help
Oh, I understood you JSP, but it's hard to tell from your post if this is your view (and therefore correct ) or you're basing it on some science... obviously one would think that the bigger a UPS the bigger the net gain/loss in power, but then you start to consider Tesla's Powerwall, which is effectively a big UPS.juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:33 pmAs I suggested in the above post, if you have a normal desktop with a 400w power supply, you just need a UPS that matches its power requirements - ie minimal consumption costs incurred for the UPS.StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:27 pmCan't find any reasonable data on whether a UPS kicks your power bill, half suggests no change, others suggest barely recordable change.juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:24 pmEverything uses some power, but the UPS is basically the same as a lap top power supply - a voltage regulator with an overload cut out and a battery. The bigger the UPS, the bigger the cost in running it. But you would be hard pushed to need 4kw for a UPS unless you're mining bitcoins or something.StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:51 pmWell that sucks. Now googling to see if UPS do the same/similar...juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:49 pm
Both, iirc the digital one's are a bit better. Average consumption is anything from a third more to double
1200r average renters rate becomes 2400r.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help
Ok Stroppy, time to get it out and show us. Just exactly how big is your telefunkun UPS?StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:37 pmOh, I understood you JSP, but it's hard to tell from your post if this is your view (and therefore correct ) or you're basing it on some science... obviously one would think that the bigger a UPS the bigger the net gain/loss in power, but then you start to consider Tesla's Powerwall, which is effectively a big UPS.juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:33 pmAs I suggested in the above post, if you have a normal desktop with a 400w power supply, you just need a UPS that matches its power requirements - ie minimal consumption costs incurred for the UPS.StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:27 pmCan't find any reasonable data on whether a UPS kicks your power bill, half suggests no change, others suggest barely recordable change.juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:24 pmEverything uses some power, but the UPS is basically the same as a lap top power supply - a voltage regulator with an overload cut out and a battery. The bigger the UPS, the bigger the cost in running it. But you would be hard pushed to need 4kw for a UPS unless you're mining bitcoins or something.StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:51 pm
Well that sucks. Now googling to see if UPS do the same/similar...
This one's for Hanno. Tell Mrs Stroppy to cover her eyes.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help
FFS - is it not possible to have a reasonable conversation around here any more?juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:42 pmOk Stroppy, time to get it out and show us. Just exactly how big is your telefunkun UPS?StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:37 pmOh, I understood you JSP, but it's hard to tell from your post if this is your view (and therefore correct ) or you're basing it on some science... obviously one would think that the bigger a UPS the bigger the net gain/loss in power, but then you start to consider Tesla's Powerwall, which is effectively a big UPS.juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:33 pmAs I suggested in the above post, if you have a normal desktop with a 400w power supply, you just need a UPS that matches its power requirements - ie minimal consumption costs incurred for the UPS.StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:27 pmCan't find any reasonable data on whether a UPS kicks your power bill, half suggests no change, others suggest barely recordable change.juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:24 pm
Everything uses some power, but the UPS is basically the same as a lap top power supply - a voltage regulator with an overload cut out and a battery. The bigger the UPS, the bigger the cost in running it. But you would be hard pushed to need 4kw for a UPS unless you're mining bitcoins or something.
This one's for Hanno. Tell Mrs Stroppy to cover her eyes.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help
I'mStroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:45 pmFFS - is it not possible to have a reasonable conversation around here any more?juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:42 pmOk Stroppy, time to get it out and show us. Just exactly how big is your telefunkun UPS?StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:37 pmOh, I understood you JSP, but it's hard to tell from your post if this is your view (and therefore correct ) or you're basing it on some science... obviously one would think that the bigger a UPS the bigger the net gain/loss in power, but then you start to consider Tesla's Powerwall, which is effectively a big UPS.juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:33 pmAs I suggested in the above post, if you have a normal desktop with a 400w power supply, you just need a UPS that matches its power requirements - ie minimal consumption costs incurred for the UPS.StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:27 pm
Can't find any reasonable data on whether a UPS kicks your power bill, half suggests no change, others suggest barely recordable change.
This one's for Hanno. Tell Mrs Stroppy to cover her eyes.
Obviously not. I take the time and trouble to help and you get all Stroppy.if you don't believe me maybe JB can help.
Edit: I was trying to bring some humour into an otherwise dry topic for most people. Obviously it wasn't the right time or place for you. Soz.
I just looked up the Tesla units, I thought you were actually talking about one of the real Tesla's theories.
For those that don't know, and I didn't, the Tesla company released a new battery/ solar power solution in 2015. It's a bit pricey though.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Powerwall
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help
Well this question went from useful information into something that has gone so far over my head I dont even know where to begin. So to bring it all back on course I went out and bought the cheapest UPS i could find $35 which more than covers my 450w computer. Needless to say the computer restarts drastically reduced. Unfortunately not completely. Its crazy watching the fluctuation in power. I know that has had something to do with it. I then made a few modifications to some of my settings and no more computer restarts. So will say this was all a success. Now if my EDC bill goes way up Ill have to reconsider. And by the way paying my EDC bill at the EDC was straight up madness. I had to stand and watch for five minutes before I realized what had to be done.
Im glad I only pay 770kwh riel though. SO Im expecting not a huge jump in bill price.
Now you guys can go back to talking about whatever the heck it was you were blabbing about.
Im glad I only pay 770kwh riel though. SO Im expecting not a huge jump in bill price.
Now you guys can go back to talking about whatever the heck it was you were blabbing about.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help
One UPS is highly unlikely to send you EDC bill way up.
Glad you got it sorted out.
Glad you got it sorted out.
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Haha, soz for all that. I blame Stroppy. No, your power bill will be next to normal, 450w is nothing unless you intend to run it playing video games 24/7. It should pull about 200w or less per hour. That's like two 100w bulbs. Glad you got it sorted.kyleincambo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:37 pm Well this question went from useful information into something that has gone so far over my head I dont even know where to begin. So to bring it all back on course I went out and bought the cheapest UPS i could find $35 which more than covers my 450w computer. Needless to say the computer restarts drastically reduced. Unfortunately not completely. Its crazy watching the fluctuation in power. I know that has had something to do with it. I then made a few modifications to some of my settings and no more computer restarts. So will say this was all a success. Now if my EDC bill goes way up Ill have to reconsider. And by the way paying my EDC bill at the EDC was straight up madness. I had to stand and watch for five minutes before I realized what had to be done.
Im glad I only pay 770kwh riel though. SO Im expecting not a huge jump in bill price.
Now you guys can go back to talking about whatever the heck it was you were blabbing about.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help
Btw, does your UPS have a meter on it that measures the voltage in? Maybe the UPS is constantly running on the battery?kyleincambo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:37 pm Well this question went from useful information into something that has gone so far over my head I dont even know where to begin. So to bring it all back on course I went out and bought the cheapest UPS i could find $35 which more than covers my 450w computer. Needless to say the computer restarts drastically reduced. Unfortunately not completely. Its crazy watching the fluctuation in power. I know that has had something to do with it. I then made a few modifications to some of my settings and no more computer restarts. So will say this was all a success. Now if my EDC bill goes way up Ill have to reconsider. And by the way paying my EDC bill at the EDC was straight up madness. I had to stand and watch for five minutes before I realized what had to be done.
Im glad I only pay 770kwh riel though. SO Im expecting not a huge jump in bill price.
Now you guys can go back to talking about whatever the heck it was you were blabbing about.
How far is your place from the street post? Just interested.
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Re: Computer and Voltage issues help
Eyes are covered....juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:42 pmOk Stroppy, time to get it out and show us. Just exactly how big is your telefunkun UPS?StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:37 pmOh, I understood you JSP, but it's hard to tell from your post if this is your view (and therefore correct ) or you're basing it on some science... obviously one would think that the bigger a UPS the bigger the net gain/loss in power, but then you start to consider Tesla's Powerwall, which is effectively a big UPS.juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:33 pmAs I suggested in the above post, if you have a normal desktop with a 400w power supply, you just need a UPS that matches its power requirements - ie minimal consumption costs incurred for the UPS.StroppyChops wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:27 pmCan't find any reasonable data on whether a UPS kicks your power bill, half suggests no change, others suggest barely recordable change.juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:24 pm
Everything uses some power, but the UPS is basically the same as a lap top power supply - a voltage regulator with an overload cut out and a battery. The bigger the UPS, the bigger the cost in running it. But you would be hard pushed to need 4kw for a UPS unless you're mining bitcoins or something.
This one's for Hanno. Tell Mrs Stroppy to cover her eyes.
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