Where there's a will, there's a way.

John Bingham wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 12:19 amThose guillotines cost quite a bit, only the rich can afford them.

Place de la Revolution, Execution of Louis XVI of France. 21 January 1793.

If the basis of popular government in peacetime is virtue, the basis of popular government during a revolution is both virtue and terror; virtue, without which terror is baneful; terror, without which virtue is powerless. Terror is nothing more than speedy, severe and inflexible justice; it is thus an emanation of virtue; it is less a principle in itself, than a consequence of the general principle of democracy, applied to the most pressing needs of the patrie. Robespierre, February 1794.

without a doubt....muslims ,be they rich or poor.

peppermintpaddy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 3:57 am without a doubt....muslims ,be they rich or poor.

Please take care out there as you seem to be susceptible to slight of hand.

*sleight

peppermintpaddy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 3:57 amwithout a doubt....muslims ,be they rich or poor.

I have just read an interesting article on Trump's policy changes in Somalia:

By declaring parts of Somalia an “area of active hostilities,” Mr. Trump gave the Department of Defense authority to approve strikes without going through an Obama-era vetting process, which potentially lowers the bar for tolerance of civilian casualties.

My own bar for tolerance of civilian casualties is also lowered, especially when they occur, not in Somalia, but in other places such as Manchester, UK. By the way, the Manchester guy, Salman Abedi, was from Lybia. I somehow suspect that his beef must have been related to a similar, but earlier "policy change". I guess that it must have been his own and rather explosive way of getting even. Dunno what happened there. By the way, the Queen condemned the Manchester bomb attack as 'wicked', but it is not her call any longer. With Salman Abedi being obliterated and dead now, the question will have to be assessed on the Day of the Last Judgment, by the Almighty himself.

The Code of Hammurabi

When Anu the Sublime, King of the Anunaki, and Bel, the lord of Heaven and earth, who decreed the fate of the land, assigned to Marduk, the over-ruling son of Ea, God of righteousness, dominion over earthly man, and made him great among the Igigi, they called Babylon by his illustrious name, made it great on earth, and founded an everlasting kingdom in it, whose foundations are laid so solidly as those of heaven and earth; then Anu and Bel called by name me, Hammurabi, the exalted prince, who feared God, to bring about the rule of righteousness in the land, to destroy the wicked and the evil-doers; so that the strong should not harm the weak; so that I should rule over the black-headed people like Shamash, and enlighten the land, to further the well-being of mankind.

196. If a man put out the eye of another man, his eye shall be put out. [ An eye for an eye ]
197. If he break another man's bone, his bone shall be broken.
200. If a man knock out the teeth of his equal, his teeth shall be knocked out. [ A tooth for a tooth ]


There was apparently a name change at some point, from "Bel" to "Allah":

And We ordained for them therein a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a nose for a nose, an ear for an ear, a tooth for a tooth, and for wounds is legal retribution. But whoever gives [up his right as] charity, it is an expiation for him. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed – then it is those who are the wrongdoers. Quran, Sūrat l-māidah, 5:45.

There is certainly a real price tag attached to lowering the bar for tolerance of civilian casualties. With the Trump policy changes, I eagerly await with amazement the severed arms and legs to be flying around again. Still, as long as it is not your own arms and legs, it is not really an issue, is it?

John Bingham wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 12:19 am Those guillotines cost quite a bit, only the rich can afford them. However they are good for killing peasants on an industrial scale.

They ARE reusable.

hanno wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 12:21 pm

StroppyChops wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 12:16 pm

John Bingham wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 12:19 am Those guillotines cost quite a bit, only the rich can afford them. However they are good for killing peasants on an industrial scale.

They ARE reusable.

Just need one of those:

Yes, but keep it whet...

juansweetpotato wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 9:10 am

peppermintpaddy wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2017 3:57 am without a doubt....muslims ,be they rich or poor.

Please take care out there as you seem to be susceptible to slight of hand.

and you seem to be susceptible to verbal diarrohea....by the way ,its sleight of hand,if you're gonna be a smartarse ,learn to spell.