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Re: Boom Boom and Busts

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Duncan wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:08 am
obelisks wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:45 pm
rogerrabbit wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:50 pm
Duncan wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:30 pm
If I'm not totally confused with location, this project is by local wealthy guy. First this was supposed to be residential building, then hotel, and then.. i guess they don't know what it will be. And maybe construction halted because of that. But for sure guys owning that project has the money to finish it if they want. They have few other projects ongoing as well.
Duncan I was in Vietnam (both Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi ) six weeks ago and you see the same thing there exactly.
I feel something major will happen sooner or later and a lot of money is going to be lost.but it's their own fault because
it should have been obvious even to blind Freddy what's going to happen.
Now i am in Pattaya where there is purportedly (according to Colliers International) at least 17,000 condominiums on the market

Oversupply sparks fresh bubble fears

According to figures from Jones Lang LaSalle Vietnam (JLL), around 63,800 apartments will be completed in Ho Chi Minh City over the next three years, in Hanoi, this number will be more than 61,000 units.
:o

https://www.vietnambreakingnews.com/201 ... ble-fears/






around 63,800 apartments will be completed in Ho Chi Minh City over the next three years,



One could look at it another way,,, 21,000 every year for a city the size of HCM, a population of ?? million . and growing . I would be more worried about if those
projects will be completed , not if they will be sold.
I don't think 63,800 apartments will be completed or sold

In pictures: Unfinished, abandoned buildings in Saigon

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/busine ... aigon.html
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Re: Boom Boom and Busts

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obelisks wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:14 pm
Duncan wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:08 am
obelisks wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:45 pm
rogerrabbit wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:50 pm
Duncan wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:30 pm
If I'm not totally confused with location, this project is by local wealthy guy. First this was supposed to be residential building, then hotel, and then.. i guess they don't know what it will be. And maybe construction halted because of that. But for sure guys owning that project has the money to finish it if they want. They have few other projects ongoing as well.
Duncan I was in Vietnam (both Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi ) six weeks ago and you see the same thing there exactly.
I feel something major will happen sooner or later and a lot of money is going to be lost.but it's their own fault because
it should have been obvious even to blind Freddy what's going to happen.
Now i am in Pattaya where there is purportedly (according to Colliers International) at least 17,000 condominiums on the market

Oversupply sparks fresh bubble fears

According to figures from Jones Lang LaSalle Vietnam (JLL), around 63,800 apartments will be completed in Ho Chi Minh City over the next three years, in Hanoi, this number will be more than 61,000 units.
:o

https://www.vietnambreakingnews.com/201 ... ble-fears/






around 63,800 apartments will be completed in Ho Chi Minh City over the next three years,



One could look at it another way,,, 21,000 every year for a city the size of HCM, a population of ?? million . and growing . I would be more worried about if those
projects will be completed , not if they will be sold.
I don't think 63,800 apartments will be completed or sold

In pictures: Unfinished, abandoned buildings in Saigon

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/busine ... aigon.html



obelisks,, Thanks for that info ,,, It sort of confirms my theory. Do you think that those buildings are mostly financed by Vietnam backers or Chinese.?
Cambodia,,,, Don't fall in love with her.
Like the spoilt child she is, she will not be happy till she destroys herself from within and breaks your heart.
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Re: Boom Boom and Busts

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Duncan wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:36 pm
obelisks wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:14 pm
Duncan wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:08 am
obelisks wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:45 pm
rogerrabbit wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:50 pm

If I'm not totally confused with location, this project is by local wealthy guy. First this was supposed to be residential building, then hotel, and then.. i guess they don't know what it will be. And maybe construction halted because of that. But for sure guys owning that project has the money to finish it if they want. They have few other projects ongoing as well.
Duncan I was in Vietnam (both Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi ) six weeks ago and you see the same thing there exactly.
I feel something major will happen sooner or later and a lot of money is going to be lost.but it's their own fault because
it should have been obvious even to blind Freddy what's going to happen.
Now i am in Pattaya where there is purportedly (according to Colliers International) at least 17,000 condominiums on the market

Oversupply sparks fresh bubble fears

According to figures from Jones Lang LaSalle Vietnam (JLL), around 63,800 apartments will be completed in Ho Chi Minh City over the next three years, in Hanoi, this number will be more than 61,000 units.
:o

https://www.vietnambreakingnews.com/201 ... ble-fears/






around 63,800 apartments will be completed in Ho Chi Minh City over the next three years,



One could look at it another way,,, 21,000 every year for a city the size of HCM, a population of ?? million . and growing . I would be more worried about if those
projects will be completed , not if they will be sold.
I don't think 63,800 apartments will be completed or sold

In pictures: Unfinished, abandoned buildings in Saigon

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/busine ... aigon.html



obelisks,, Thanks for that info ,,, It sort of confirms my theory. Do you think that those buildings are mostly financed by Vietnam backers or Chinese.?
Duncan I honestly can't answer that because I don't know enough about the market there. But this problem seems widespread i.e. not only in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City
for example I stopped in Hue which is the old capital of Vietnam and even there you have abandoned unfinished high-rise buildings.
As I was looking up at one of these skeleton structures a local guy came by who could speak English and he started chatting so I asked him what had happened.
In that case he said the Vietnamese owner lives in California and simply ran out of money.
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